Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 28 › Conversation 028-035

Nixon phone call with an unidentified caller on Edward J. Kiernan

Tuesday, August 1, 1972 · 4:33 PM–5:20 PM ET · White House Telephone · 15 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); White House operatorConversation028-035 on Tape 28StartTuesday, August 1, 1972 at 4:33 PMEndTuesday, August 1, 1972 at 5:20 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 028-035 ↗

President Nixon instructed the White House operator to place an outgoing call to Edward J. Kiernan. Kiernan, serving as the president of the International Conference of Police Associations in New York City, was the intended recipient of the communication. This brief exchange served solely as an administrative coordination to facilitate direct contact between the President and the police labor leader.

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You try Mr. Edward Kiernan, K-I-E-R-N-A-N.
He's the president of the International Conference of Police Associations in New York City.
All right, thank you.

On August 1, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:33 pm and 5:20 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 028-035 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 28-35

Date: August 1, 1972
Time: Unknown between 4:33 pm and 5:20 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with the White House operator.

     Request for a call to Edward J. Kiernan
         -Position
                -International Conference of Police Associations
         -Location
  • 028-034 4:33 PM · 16 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 4:33 pm.
  • 028-036 4:33 PM · 18 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:33 pm and 5:20 pm.
  • 758-016 4:53 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon, Robert J. Brown, Stanley S. Scott, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:53 pm and 4:57 pm.
  • 758-017 4:57 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Richard K. Cook, Max L. Friedersdorf, John E. Nidecker, and incumbent Republican Congressmen and candidates, including John J. Bishop, Jr., William J. Dowd, Howard W. Robison, John N. Erlenborn, John M. Zwach, Elford A. Cederberg, Charles S. Gubser, Philip M. Crane, Charles A. Mosher, Mark Andrews, John J. Duncan, J. Herbert Burke, Paul Findley, John Kyl, Alvin O'Konski, John T. Myers, Manuel Lujan, Jr., Delwin M. Clawson, William Archer, Jr., M. Gene Snyder, Clifford P. Case, Mark O. Hatfield, Edward G. Biester, Jr., Garry E. Brown, Silvio O. Conte, Glenn R. Davis, Edward J. Derwinski, William L. Dickinson, Craig Hosmer, David T. Martin, William E. Minshall, Ancher Nelsen, John J. Rhodes, Philip E. Ruppe, Charles W. Sandman, Jr., John P. Saylor, William Scherle, and White House photographer, met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:57 pm to 5:17 pm.
  • 758-018 5:17 PM · 21 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 5:17 pm and 5:20 pm.
  • 758-019 5:17 PM · 34 sec — President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 5:17 pm and 5:20 pm.
  • 028-037 5:20 PM · 18 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Edward J. Kiernan talked on the telephone from 5:20 pm to 5:21 pm.
  • 758-020 5:20 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Edward J. Kiernan met in the Oval Office of the White House from 5:20 pm to 5:21 pm.

Conversation 028-035, August 1, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/028-035 (accessed October 12, 2026).