Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 38 › Conversation 038-045

Nixon phone call with Kleindienst on Watergate scandal and Henry E. Petersen

Sunday, April 15, 1973 · 3:48 PM–3:49 PM ET · White House Telephone · 20 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Kleindienst, Richard G.Conversation038-045 on Tape 38StartSunday, April 15, 1973 at 3:48 PMEndSunday, April 15, 1973 at 3:49 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 038-045 ↗

President Nixon arranges a meeting with Attorney General Richard G. Kleindienst to discuss specific instructions for Assistant Attorney General Henry E. Petersen. Kleindienst requests permission to bring Petersen along to the White House for this briefing. The conversation serves as a brief logistical coordination to facilitate direct communication between the President and the lead investigator regarding the Watergate matter.

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Yeah?
Hello, Mr. President?
Hi, Dick.
May I bring Henry Peterson with me?
Yeah, I want to ask him to do something.
I'll be over there in a couple minutes.
All right, sir.

On April 15, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Richard G. Kleindienst talked on the telephone from 3:48 pm to 3:49 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-045 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 38-45

Date: April 15, 1973
Time: 3:48 pm - 3:49 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Richard G. Kleindienst.

[A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared Richard Nixon’s Special
White House Counsel for Watergate Matters and submitted to the Committee on the Judiciary of
the House of Representatives. This transcript can be found in Submission of Recorded
Presidential Conversations (SRPC), pages 760 (1). Please refer to the logging below.]

     President’s meeting with Kleindienst
           -Henry E. Petersen
  • 038-042 2:22 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 2:22 pm and 3:27 pm.
  • 038-043 3:27 PM · 18 min — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman talked on the telephone from 3:27 pm to 3:44 pm.
  • 038-044 3:44 PM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:44 pm and 3:48 pm.
  • 038-046 3:50 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at 3:50 pm.
  • 038-047 4:00 PM · 20 sec — Henry E. Petersen, White House operator, and President Richard M. Nixon talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:00 pm and 5:15 pm.
  • 038-048 4:00 PM · 7 min — Henry E. Petersen, White House operator, President Richard M. Nixon, Charles N. Shaffer, and Earl J. Silbert talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:00 pm and 5:15 pm.
  • 038-049 4:00 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:00 pm and 5:15 pm.
  • 038-050 5:17 PM · 24 sec — White House operator and President Richard M. Nixon talked on the telephone at 5:17 pm.

Conversation 038-045, April 15, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-045 (accessed October 12, 2026).