Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 38 › Conversation 038-074

Nixon phone call with an unidentified caller on William P. Rogers

Monday, April 16, 1973 · 4:55 PM–6:01 PM ET · White House Telephone · 12 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); White House operatorConversation038-074 on Tape 38StartMonday, April 16, 1973 at 4:55 PMEndMonday, April 16, 1973 at 6:01 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 038-074 ↗

President Nixon directed the White House operator to place a telephone call to Adele Rogers, the wife of Secretary of State William P. Rogers. This brief administrative interaction served as a communication relay to facilitate a personal or professional connection between the Secretary and his spouse. No further policy or substantive matters were discussed during this connection attempt.

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Operator.
Mrs. Rogers.
Mrs. Rogers for the secretary.

On April 16, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:55 pm and 6:01 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-074 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 38-74

Date: April 16, 1973
Time: Unknown between 4:55 pm and 6:01 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with the White House operator.

     Telephone call to Adele (Langston) Rogers from William P. Rogers
  • 038-071 4:42 PM · 38 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower talked on the telephone at 4:42 pm.
  • 427-011 4:42 PM · 36 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 4:42 pm to 4:43 pm.
  • 038-072 4:55 PM · 26 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:55 pm and 5:45 pm.
  • 038-073 4:55 PM · 1 min — William P. Rogers and Vice President Spiro T. Agnew talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:55 pm and 5:45 pm.
  • 038-075 4:55 PM · 20 sec — William P. Rogers and Adele (Langston) Rogers talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:55 pm and 6:01 pm.
  • 038-076 4:55 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:55 pm and 8:45 pm.
  • 038-077 4:55 PM · 14 sec — White House operator and President Richard M. Nixon talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:55 pm and 8:45 pm.
  • 427-012 4:55 PM · 47 min — President Richard M. Nixon, William P. Rogers, Manolo Sanchez, John D. Ehrlichman, White House operator, Vice President Spiro T. Agnew, Adele (Langston) Rogers, and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 4:55 pm to 6:01 pm.

Conversation 038-074, April 16, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-074 (accessed October 5, 2026).