Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 38 › Conversation 038-073

Rogers & Agnew on White House scheduling and Executive communication

Monday, April 16, 1973 · 4:55 PM–5:45 PM ET · White House Telephone · 1 min

ParticipantsRogers, William P.; Agnew, Spiro T. (Vice President)Conversation038-073 on Tape 38StartMonday, April 16, 1973 at 4:55 PMEndMonday, April 16, 1973 at 5:45 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 038-073 ↗

Secretary of State William P. Rogers and Vice President Spiro T. Agnew spoke to coordinate scheduling adjustments regarding a planned meeting or social engagement. Rogers notified the Vice President that he had to cancel their previous plans due to a last-minute request from President Nixon to join him for a discussion aboard the presidential yacht, the Sequoia. The two agreed to postpone their interaction and discussed the inclusion of Adele Rogers in the rescheduled arrangements.

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Hello?
Secretary Rogers?
Yeah.
One moment.
Thank you.
Secretary Rogers?
Yeah.
How are you today?
Fine, thank you.
Good.
Just one moment, please.
Hello, Ted.
Hi, Bill.
I'm talking to the president.
He asked me to go out on the Sequoia with him tonight, and he's got a couple of things he wants to talk over that he thinks are important.
I'd be like hell to disappoint you, but I think maybe I should do that.
Well, of course, you have to go with the president.
There's no question about that.
Can we maybe have a golf game or something while the freak is here?
Well, it's not that important.
I mean, we can do it again another time.
So that's perfectly all right.
I mean, I understand that.
They all can go if you want or not, however you want to work it.
We'll be glad to have her.
I'll call her and tell her to go.
Okay.
Thank you.
I'm sorry.
Bye.
Bye.
Thank you.

On April 16, 1973, William P. Rogers and Vice President Spiro T. Agnew talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:55 pm and 5:45 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-073 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 38-73

Date: April 16, 1973
Time: Unknown between 4:55 pm and 5:45 pm
Location: White House Telephone

William P. Rogers talked with Spiro T. Agnew.

[See also Conversation No. 427-12B]

     Rogers’s schedule
          -Meeting with President
                -Sequoia
          -Changes
                Adele (Langston) Rogers
  • 038-071 4:42 PM · 38 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower talked on the telephone at 4:42 pm.
  • 427-011 4:42 PM · 36 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 4:42 pm to 4:43 pm.
  • 038-072 4:55 PM · 26 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:55 pm and 5:45 pm.
  • 038-074 4:55 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:55 pm and 6:01 pm.
  • 038-075 4:55 PM · 20 sec — William P. Rogers and Adele (Langston) Rogers talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:55 pm and 6:01 pm.
  • 038-076 4:55 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:55 pm and 8:45 pm.
  • 038-077 4:55 PM · 14 sec — White House operator and President Richard M. Nixon talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:55 pm and 8:45 pm.
  • 427-012 4:55 PM · 47 min — President Richard M. Nixon, William P. Rogers, Manolo Sanchez, John D. Ehrlichman, White House operator, Vice President Spiro T. Agnew, Adele (Langston) Rogers, and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 4:55 pm to 6:01 pm.

Conversation 038-073, April 16, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-073 (accessed October 12, 2026).