Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 38 › Conversation 038-106

Nixon phone call with Ziegler on John W. Dean III and Watergate aftermath

Thursday, April 19, 1973 · 12:29 PM–12:48 PM ET · White House Telephone · 1 min

ParticipantsZiegler, Ronald L.; White House operator; Nixon, Richard M. (President)Conversation038-106 on Tape 38StartThursday, April 19, 1973 at 12:29 PMEndThursday, April 19, 1973 at 12:48 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 038-106 ↗

AI Summary

Ronald L. Ziegler requested that the White House operator connect him to John W. Dean, III, to facilitate a direct communication between the two men. President Nixon was present in the background during the initiation of this call. The primary action taken was the administrative coordination required to reach Dean via telephone.

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Operator?
Yes, sir?
This is Ron Ziegler.
Would you reach John Dean for me, indicating that I'm calling from my office, please?
From your office?
Yes, sir.
Thank you.
Yes, this is Ziegler.
Call me back on this line when you get him on the line.
OK, he's coming right on.
Oh, he's coming on.
Right.

NARA Description

On April 19, 1973, Ronald L. Ziegler, White House operator, and President Richard M. Nixon talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:29 pm and 12:48 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-106 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 38-106

Date: April 19, 1973
Time: Unknown between 12:29 pm and 12:48 pm
Location: White House Telephone

Ronald L. Ziegler talked with the White House operator. The President can be heard in the
background.

[See also Conversation No. 902-5A]

     Telephone call to John W. Dean, III

     Ziegler’s location

     Dean’s location

Also recorded on April 19, 1973

  • 038-107 12:29 PM · 1 min — Ronald L. Ziegler and John W. Dean, III talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:29 pm and 12:48 pm.
  • 902-005 12:29 PM · 20 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Ronald L. Ziegler, White House operator, and John W. Dean, III met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:29 pm and 12:48 pm.
  • 902-006 12:48 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:48 pm and 1:03 pm.
  • 902-007 12:48 PM · 21 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:48 pm and 1:03 pm.
  • 902-008 12:48 PM · 6 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:48 pm and 1:03 pm.
  • 902-009 1:03 PM · 25 min — President Richard M. Nixon and John D. Ehrlichman met in the Oval Office of the White House from 1:03 pm to 1:30 pm.
  • 902-010 1:30 PM · 29 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 1:30 pm and 1:36 pm.
  • 902-013 1:30 PM · 2 min — unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 1:30 pm and 1:36 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 038-106, April 19, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-106 (accessed October 22, 2026).