Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 38 › Conversation 038-130

Nixon phone call with an unidentified caller on Patrick J. Buchanan

Friday, April 20, 1973 · 12:02 PM–12:04 PM ET · White House Telephone · 13 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); White House operatorConversation038-130 on Tape 38StartFriday, April 20, 1973 at 12:02 PMEndFriday, April 20, 1973 at 12:04 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 038-130 ↗

President Nixon initiates a brief request to the White House operator to place a telephone call to his advisor, Patrick J. Buchanan. The conversation serves solely as a procedural instruction to establish a connection with Buchanan. No further discussion or policy matters are addressed during this brief exchange.

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Let's get back, Buchanan, please.

On April 20, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:02 pm and 12:04 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-130 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 38-130

Date: April 20, 1973
Time: Unknown between 12:02 pm and 12:04 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with the White House operator.

[See also Conversation No. 903-15]

     Telephone call to Patrick J. Buchanan
  • 903-012 11:40 AM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:40 am and 11:43 am.
  • 903-014 11:43 AM · 19 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:43 am to 12:02 pm.
  • 903-015 12:02 PM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:02 pm and 12:04 pm.
  • 038-131 12:04 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Peter J. Brennan talked on the telephone from 12:04 pm to 12:07 pm.
  • 903-016 12:04 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Peter J. Brennan met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:04 pm to 12:07 pm.
  • 903-017 12:07 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon, John D. Ehrlichman, and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:07 pm and 12:15 pm.
  • 903-018 12:07 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:07 pm and 12:15 pm.
  • 903-019 12:15 PM · 19 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, John D. Ehrlichman, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, unknown person(s), and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:15 pm to 12:34 pm.

Conversation 038-130, April 20, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-130 (accessed October 5, 2026).