Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 38 › Conversation 038-146

Nixon phone call with Higby on White House appointments

Wednesday, April 25, 1973 · 4:25 PM–4:26 PM ET · White House Telephone · 20 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Higby, Lawrence M.Conversation038-146 on Tape 38StartWednesday, April 25, 1973 at 4:25 PMEndWednesday, April 25, 1973 at 4:26 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 038-146 ↗

President Nixon and Lawrence M. Higby spoke briefly to coordinate the President's upcoming schedule. Higby provided a status update regarding a meeting with an unidentified individual, informing the President that the participant would arrive in approximately ten minutes. This communication served to manage the timing and logistical flow of Nixon's late afternoon appointments.

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Hello?
Mr. President?
Yeah.
Mr. Higdon?
Yeah.
Thank you.
Hello?
Hello?
He said about another ten minutes.
Okay.

On April 25, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Lawrence M. Higby talked on the telephone from 4:25 pm to 4:26 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-146 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 38-146

Date: April 25, 1973
Time: 4:25 pm -4:26 pm
Location: White House Telephone
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                                           Conversation No. 38-146 (cont’d)

The President talked with Lawrence M. Higby.

[See also Conversation No. 430-20]

     President’s schedule
           -Meeting with unknown man
                 -Estimated time
  • 430-016 3:35 PM · 39 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Richard G. Kleindienst, and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:35 pm to 4:10 pm.
  • 430-017 4:10 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 4:10 pm and 4:25 pm.
  • 430-018 4:10 PM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 4:10 pm and 4:25 pm.
  • 430-019 4:10 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Lawrence M. Higby met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 4:10 pm and 4:25 pm.
  • 430-020 4:25 PM · 21 sec — Lawrence M. Higby and President Richard M. Nixon met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 4:25 pm to 4:26 pm.
  • 038-147 4:35 PM · 16 sec — H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman and President Richard M. Nixon talked on the telephone from 4:35 pm to 4:36 pm.
  • 430-021 4:35 PM · 15 sec — H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman and President Richard M. Nixon met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 4:35 pm to 4:36 pm.
  • 430-022 4:40 PM · 42 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, and Thomas Hart met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 4:40 pm to 5:35 pm.

Conversation 038-146, April 25, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-146 (accessed October 4, 2026).