Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 38 › Conversation 038-158

Nixon phone call with an unidentified caller on Richard G. Kleindienst

Wednesday, April 25, 1973 · 7:53 PM–8:20 PM ET · White House Telephone · 12 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); White House operatorConversation038-158 on Tape 38StartWednesday, April 25, 1973 at 7:53 PMEndWednesday, April 25, 1973 at 8:20 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 038-158 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon utilized the White House operator to initiate an outgoing telephone call to Attorney General Richard G. Kleindienst. The brief exchange served as a logistical step to connect the President with his chief law enforcement officer. This communication reflects the active coordination occurring between the White House and the Department of Justice during the escalating Watergate investigations.

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NARA Description

On April 25, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 7:53 pm and 8:20 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-158 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 38-158

Date: April 25, 1973
Time: Unknown between 7:53 pm and 8:20 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with the White House operator.

[See also Conversation No. 430-38]

     Telephone call to Richard G. Kleindienst

Also recorded on April 26, 1973

  • 038-154 7:25 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at 7:25 pm.
  • 038-156 7:39 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 7:39 pm and 7:46 pm.
  • 038-157 7:46 PM · 8 min — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman talked on the telephone from 7:46 pm to 7:53 pm.
  • 430-036 7:46 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 7:46 pm to 7:53 pm.
  • 430-037 7:53 PM · 36 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 7:53 pm and 8:20 pm.
  • 430-038 7:53 PM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 7:53 pm and 8:20 pm.
  • 038-159 8:20 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Richard G. Kleindienst talked on the telephone from 8:20 pm to 8:23 pm.
  • 430-039 8:20 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Richard G. Kleindienst met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 8:20 pm to 8:23 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 038-158, April 26, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-158 (accessed October 5, 2026).