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Nixon & Haldeman on Watergate and White House tapes

Wednesday, April 25, 1973 · 7:46 PM–7:53 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 3 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Conversation430-036 on Tape 430StartWednesday, April 25, 1973 at 7:46 PMEndWednesday, April 25, 1973 at 7:53 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 430-036 ↗

President Richard Nixon and H. R. Haldeman discuss the handling and disposal of personal materials and correspondence. Their dialogue centers on the potential legal or public relations implications of these items being contested, specifically concerning the President’s word against others. The exchange concludes with a focus on organizing or destroying these records to ensure they do not become a liability.

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A wave of terror.
Whether it's just a matter of whether he thought he would walk with her.
Could it be that Cindy said yes?
I'm pretty sure.
And he got that hard and he got that depressed.
I don't know what happened.
Well, it doesn't matter.
Nothing is going to be on there.
I'll just go ahead.
Yeah.
They're personal.
They're here.
I'll just go ahead.
I'll just go ahead.
I'll just go ahead.
I'll just go ahead.
His word against, his word against, his word against, his word against the president.
Yeah, that, I mean, but he didn't make it, you know, so it didn't come as a shame that we had to throw this out there.
You know, it should have probably been a second letter.
They were having a good time about it.
Yeah.
.
.
.
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There's a little laugh on the button for when we have this day, right?
Right.
Right.
Right.
Right.

On April 25, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 7:46 pm to 7:53 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 430-036 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 430-036

Date: April 25, 1973
Time: 7:46 pm - 7:53 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

[See Conversation No. 038-157]

[A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was initially prepared for the
Watergate Special Prosecution Force (WSPF) and can be found in Record Group (RG) 460,
pages 1-8 and in United States v. Mitchell, et al., Exhibit 33, pages 00633-00640 (1-8). The
Nixon Presidential Materials Staff reviewed the transcript and made changes as necessary. This
transcript has been reviewed under the provisions of the Presidential Recordings and Materials
Preservation Act of 1974 (PRMPA). The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]

[Begin transcribed portion]

[End transcribed portion]

       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542
  • 038-154 7:25 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at 7:25 pm.
  • 038-155 7:25 PM · 14 min — President Richard M. Nixon and John D. Ehrlichman talked on the telephone from 7:25 pm to 7:39 pm.
  • 430-034 7:25 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at 7:25 pm.
  • 038-156 7:39 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 7:39 pm and 7:46 pm.
  • 038-157 7:46 PM · 8 min — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman talked on the telephone from 7:46 pm to 7:53 pm.
  • 038-158 7:53 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 7:53 pm and 8:20 pm.
  • 430-037 7:53 PM · 36 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 7:53 pm and 8:20 pm.
  • 430-038 7:53 PM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 7:53 pm and 8:20 pm.

Conversation 430-036, April 26, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/430-036 (accessed October 5, 2026).