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Nixon phone call with Cox on Camp David and Family life

Saturday, February 3, 1973 · 5:18 PM–5:22 PM ET · Camp David Study Table · 2 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Cox, Tricia NixonConversation161-005 on Tape 161StartSaturday, February 3, 1973 at 5:18 PMEndSaturday, February 3, 1973 at 5:22 PMRecording deviceCamp David Study TableSourceNixon Library record for 161-005 ↗

President Richard Nixon and his daughter, Tricia Nixon Cox, discuss their recent movements to and from Camp David and confirm their family's arrival at the retreat. The primary focus of the call involves a domestic update regarding a tame deer kept at the site and the family's efforts to introduce it to their dog, King. The participants exchange lighthearted advice on feeding the animal and express optimism about the two animals coexisting.

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Mr. President.
Thank you.
Hello.
Daddy, hi.
Where are you?
At Camp David?
We just came up.
Yeah, I was here last night with Heath, and then I went back.
Oh, I see.
We didn't spend the night, but I took him back.
He spent the night.
No, he didn't either.
He went back to London today.
No, we took him back last night.
I went back with him.
And then we came up about 2 or 3 o'clock this afternoon.
Did Mommy come with you?
She came up this afternoon, yes.
Daddy, have you seen the deer yet?
The what?
The deer.
Yeah, yeah, we did it, truly, and we all, everybody getting a big kick out of it.
Yeah, but you know he's just like a dog.
Just like a dog, just like a dog.
Is he coming to the room where you were?
No, we saw him outside, and he's going to be in this afternoon.
Of course, Manolo's going to try to get him acquainted with the dog.
Oh, good, and first you bring him inside.
They may have had him in, I have been in the other room, but we saw him outside when he came.
Did you feed him anything?
Yep, they tripped at him some, I think some, I don't know, some nuts or something.
Yeah, that's right.
He eats that.
He eats almost anything.
He likes cookies.
He likes Hershey's oatmeal cookies.
Okay, I'll give him that.
If you want to feed him a cookie, that would be great.
He's not housebroken.
I wouldn't think so, no.
No, but anyway, other than that, he's very nice to have inside.
Okay.
But do you think they can really train King to like him?
Sure, sure, the dogs.
Aren't they about the same size?
Same size, yeah.
They should get on well.
Yeah.
They really do.
Well, anyway, you have a good time, and we'll see you, huh?
Okay.
All right, honey.
We'll see you soon.
Bye, Daddy.

On February 3, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Tricia Nixon Cox talked on the telephone at Camp David from 5:18 pm to 5:22 pm. The Camp David Study Table taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 161-005 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 161-5

Date: February 3, 1973
Time: 5:18 pm-5:22 pm
Location: Camp David Study Table

The President talked with Tricia Nixon Cox.

[See Conversation No. 241-10A]

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[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift during
chronological review 2007-2013]

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[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 10/17/2017.
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                 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                                      Conversation No. 161-5 (cont’d)

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      President’s schedule
             -Camp David
             -Edward R. G. Heath
             -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon’s schedule
             -Deer
                     -Manolo Sanchez
                     -Dog
                     -William Hirsch

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  • 242-001 2:45 PM · 38 sec — President Richard M. Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 2:45 pm on February 3, 1973 and 8:34 pm on February 4, 1973.
  • 242-002 2:45 PM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 2:45 pm on February 3, 1973 and 8:34 pm on February 4, 1973.
  • 242-003 2:45 PM · 43 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 2:45 pm on February 3, 1973 and 8:34 pm on February 4, 1973.
  • 161-003 3:30 PM · 21 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at 3:30 pm.
  • 161-004 3:30 PM · 16 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 3:30 pm and 5:18 pm.
  • 241-008 3:30 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at 3:30 pm.
  • 241-009 3:30 PM · 16 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 3:30 pm and 5:18 pm.
  • 241-010 3:30 PM · 51 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Manolo Sanchez, and Tricia Nixon Cox met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 3:30 pm and 6:15 pm.

Conversation 161-005, February 3, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/161-005 (accessed October 1, 2026).