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Nixon phone call with Bull on William P. Rogers and Camp David

Saturday, April 28, 1973 · 9:08 AM–9:09 AM ET · Camp David Study Table · 58 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation164-008 on Tape 164StartSaturday, April 28, 1973 at 9:08 AMEndSaturday, April 28, 1973 at 9:09 AMRecording deviceCamp David Study TableSourceNixon Library record for 164-008 ↗

President Nixon directs his aide, Stephen B. Bull, to coordinate the transportation of Secretary of State William P. Rogers to Camp David for a private meeting. The logistics involve arranging a military helicopter to transport Rogers from a helipad near his residence in Bethesda to the designated landing site at Thurmont. Bull is instructed to finalize these details promptly and report back to the President with an estimated arrival time to facilitate scheduling.

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Yeah.
Mr. Bolton, Mr. Preston.
Yeah.
Yes, sir.
I want Secretary Rogers to come up to see me.
I have talked to him, and he's willing.
I want you to arrange, call him, and work with the military and arrange for a helicopter to pick him up at the Bethesda pad.
There's a pad there that's close to his home.
And have them bring him to, they'll probably have to drop in at the Thermon.
I don't know how the weather is here, so they can get in.
And he's ready to come just whenever you make the arrangements.
All right?
All right, sir.
Will he just stay the weekend?
No, no, no, no.
He's just coming up to see me, and then he'll come back.
All right.
Just by himself.
Then, Steve, once you have made those arrangements, call me back.
Tell me approximately when he will be here so I can plan my date.
Okay?
All right.

On April 28, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone at Camp David from 9:08 am to 9:09 am. The Camp David Study Table taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 164-008 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 164-8

Date: April 28, 1973
Time: 9:08 am - 9:09 am
Location: Camp David Study Table

The President talked with Stephen B. Bull.

     William P. Rogers’s schedule
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           -Transportation arrangements
                 -Military aide
                 -Helicopter
                       -Bethesda Naval Hospital
                             -Proximity to Rogers’s home
                       -Thurmont, Maryland
                 -Return travel
           -President’s schedule
  • 164-004 8:43 AM · 17 min — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman talked on the telephone at Camp David from 8:43 am to 9:01 am.
  • 164-005 9:01 AM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 9:01 am and 9:02 am.
  • 164-006 9:02 AM · 5 min — President Richard M. Nixon and William P. Rogers talked on the telephone at Camp David from 9:02 am to 9:07 am.
  • 164-007 9:07 AM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 9:07 am and 9:08 am.
  • 164-009 9:09 AM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 9:09 am and 9:13 am.
  • 164-010 9:13 AM · 12 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Henry E. Petersen talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 9:13 am and 9:25 am.
  • 164-011 9:27 AM · 21 sec — Stephen B. Bull and President Richard M. Nixon talked on the telephone at Camp David from 9:27 am to 9:28 am.
  • 164-012 9:28 AM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 9:28 am and 11:10 am.

Conversation 164-008, April 28, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/164-008 (accessed October 12, 2026).