Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 194 › Conversation 194-025

Nixon phone call with Eisenhower on Camp David and Personal communication

Sunday, June 25, 1972 · 10:30 AM–6:10 PM ET · Camp David Hard Wire · 46 sec

ParticipantsEisenhower, Julie Nixon; Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan)Conversation194-025 on Tape 194 (tape position 03:58:38–04:00:40)StartSunday, June 25, 1972 at 10:30 AMEndSunday, June 25, 1972 at 6:10 PMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 194-025 ↗

Julie Nixon Eisenhower and First Lady Pat Nixon met privately at the Aspen Lodge at Camp David for a personal discussion. Due to the withdrawal of the recorded segment as personal, private material, no substantive policy or administrative topics are preserved in the public record. The interaction concluded with both participants departing the lodge prior to the evening.

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On June 25, 1972, Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 10:30 am and 6:10 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 194-025 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 194-25

Date: June 25, 1972
Time: Unknown between 10:30 and 6:10 pm
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

Julie Nixon Eisenhower met with Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon.

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 5/21/2019.
Segment will remain closed.]
[Personal Returnable]
[194-025-w001]
[Duration: 46s]

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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Julie Eisenhower and Mrs. Nixon left at an unknown time before 6:10 pm.
  • 194-021 9:30 PM · 29 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 9:30 pm and 10:37 pm.
  • 194-022 9:30 PM · 6 min — Julie Nixon Eisenhower, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon, and Walter R. Tkach met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:30 pm on June 24, 1972 and 6:10 pm on June 25, 1972.
  • 194-023 9:30 PM · 1 min — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:30 pm on June 24, 1972 and 6:10 pm on June 25, 1972.
  • 194-024 10:30 AM · 40 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 10:30 am and 6:10 pm.
  • 194-026 10:30 AM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 10:30 am and 6:10 pm.
  • 194-027 10:30 AM · 6 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 10:30 am and 6:10 pm.
  • 194-028 5:15 PM · 18 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 5:15 pm and 6:10 pm.

Conversation 194-025, June 25, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/194-025 (accessed October 12, 2026).