Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 194 › Conversation 194-028

Nixon phone call with an unidentified caller on Travel arrangements

Sunday, June 25, 1972 · 5:15 PM–6:10 PM ET · Camp David Hard Wire · 18 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan)Conversation194-028 on Tape 194 (tape position 04:11:34–04:15:22)StartSunday, June 25, 1972 at 5:15 PMEndSunday, June 25, 1972 at 6:10 PMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 194-028 ↗

President Nixon and First Lady Pat Nixon met at Camp David to briefly discuss logistical arrangements and readiness for an upcoming trip. The exchange focused on confirming the departure timeline and ensuring that all necessary preparations were being addressed. The brief conversation served as a check-in on travel coordination rather than a substantive policy discussion.

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Already?
I think so.
Everybody is.

On June 25, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 5:15 pm and 6:10 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 194-028 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 194-28

Date: June 25, 1972
Time: Unknown between 5:15 and 6:10 pm
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

The President met with Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon.

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[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 05/20/2019.
Segment cleared for release.]
[Personal Returnable]
[194-028-w001]
[Duration: 5s]

       Preparations for trip

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Mrs. Nixon left at an unknown time before 6:10 pm.
  • 194-021 9:30 PM · 29 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 9:30 pm and 10:37 pm.
  • 194-022 9:30 PM · 6 min — Julie Nixon Eisenhower, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon, and Walter R. Tkach met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:30 pm on June 24, 1972 and 6:10 pm on June 25, 1972.
  • 194-023 9:30 PM · 1 min — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:30 pm on June 24, 1972 and 6:10 pm on June 25, 1972.
  • 194-024 10:30 AM · 40 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 10:30 am and 6:10 pm.
  • 194-025 10:30 AM · 46 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 10:30 am and 6:10 pm.
  • 194-026 10:30 AM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 10:30 am and 6:10 pm.
  • 194-027 10:30 AM · 6 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 10:30 am and 6:10 pm.

Conversation 194-028, June 25, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/194-028 (accessed October 12, 2026).