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I was kind of talking with Bob, and he mentioned the Romney thing.

I think it's sort of what you would expect, you know, in certain concepts of work.

But I think the best way to handle it is just to be very much of it, and not to get involved in it.

It's like, you know, it's a bank, and I can get very much out of it.

And just don't comment every day.

What do you think?

And also, but I do think this, I think with Van Gogh tonight, he quickly developed a very close individual relationship with him.

He's in charge of that.

He's not in charge of anything else.

He's privately going through the discussion with the ladies.

I don't I don't

Yeah, I'd be pretty good at that.

Is that irritating more?

No.

No, I'm very, very, very...

Good.

I don't want to have another talk with him.

You know what I mean?

Because he might change his mind.

You know, you never know about these things.

I'll be so proud of you.

So thank you for staying on with me.

Good night.

Give it.

No, no, no, no.

I'm asking you.

I mean, I don't want you to put you in a spot since he... Well, then deal with the fact that he's, you know, that he's sort of... Well, I didn't know if you could just... Well, you could just call him and say that he...

I don't know that I need to...

uh let me let me put it this way uh unless you think yeah uh yeah i could say that we i i what i meant is

They're going to call him and he tells them and all that.

See what I mean?

That's what I meant.

I just sort of felt that it was like, well, why didn't we have him tell them?

So why don't we just do it this way?

Let's leave it as that's the way it's going to be.

Oh, I told him I had to get him.

No, no, I told him, I said, I want the right thing.

And one of which he said that he had to be pleased with, where he brags about what he's done, housing is good, and so forth and so on.

Overall, that's the way it should be, that I feel that I deserve a private defense, and I support your reelection, that must be it, and so forth and so on.

And where he doesn't put any of the whining around it.

Nothing, another whining doesn't get around it.

Yeah.

I didn't have to worry about it.

No, what I had is, when I first started being on it, I simply, I think maybe this problem, why don't you tell them today that we, that we, the best way to have to handle this thing was since Matthew was going to be loyal and since you, the president knew you, that you were on his choice.

So it was Romney's choice.

And Romney did say, I thought it might have been, I don't know.

He said, wait, you do one full minute and I'll take two minutes.

And I'm back.

So it was his choice.

I'm sure it was his choice to ask Matthew to take on this.

As a secretary, don't say this is accurate.

This will work it out.

And we're talking to you, please, about all that.

Thank you.

and he was good.

He said, well, if you offer to do some work, then I can say, well, even if it wasn't super hard, what do you want to say?

Yeah, just say, yeah, it's explored.

He's indicated that he would be open to it for the balance of the year only, and that, too, we would appreciate it if he'd run, and when we discussed it with him, and put his blessing on it.

How would that be?

That'd get that in a subtle way.

Okay, okay.

What else is going on?

Ready?

What kind of a scandal is it?

Well, I've got a good idea.

Isn't it about time we called them quite long?

That's what I mean.

and let him go out and say, well, meanwhile we were in.

Well, you know damn well why.

Well, the answer is we didn't want to be political.

But now we want to be political.

I suppose.

I don't know.

Yeah.

Now the other thing that occurred to me that I want you to do, I don't really, I don't know, I suppose it's not so hard, but remember I've indicated that we should take all of the major supporters and or financial contributors, I mean 50 G's or something like that, and

Exactly.

And they see who they are.

Look at them.

They go after everything from Mulcahy, to Robozo, to Vodafone and all.

You know what I mean?

Every one of ours now.

My point is, who are McGovern's friends?

Who are his major supporters?

Are they bad guys, good guys?

No, he's gone.

The only thing I think was a bit done is Jerry Rubin.

But there must, no, there must be others.

And have you done anything on that?

Well, could you put a very, very smart team of about three guys on it and say there's nothing wrong with it?

It isn't just going on or it's yet going on in your report, but maybe he's got a friend who is close to him publicly.

I'd go right down the line because everybody's got somebody in there who's a bad apple.

All right.

That's very good.

I want to give him that to do.

And then he says, I need this file, this file, and this file.

Give him a couple of young guys to work with.

But I think it's a nice project.

Sure, sure.

Provided he doesn't do it in public.

Obviously, he'd be a very good one to research in.

But then...

He researches it, but my point is, it's the government.

You've got to have somebody in government.

Yeah.

And he went fine.

And Murray doesn't say, I want to look over all these people who are the bad ones.

But he won't, I don't think.

But, you see, I think you may have some on the Kimmelman thing.

Don't go over to Paul.

He'll take us on, and he'll take the others on.

We would just say this file was turned up, and we don't need to say that we suppressed the death.

This file is there.

In fact, it didn't come out as much in Oklahoma.

I mean, here's a good, snooping reporter to find something on Mr. Kimmelman.

But the main thing, it has to come very soon.

Because if it comes after the 1st of October, then it's just a lasting experience.

And I said, why didn't we do it?

But if you would follow through, put it to me, John, both of these things.

I told Hall, and maybe he's asking what he's done on that, you know, because I said I want to know what, I want a list of all their contributors and supporters, and I want some investigations made.

Right now, okay.

All right.