Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 209 › Conversation 209-005

Nixon phone call with Eisenhower on Camp David and Personal matters

Sunday, September 10, 1972 · 12:14 PM–1:15 PM ET · Camp David Hard Wire · 13 sec

ParticipantsEisenhower, Julie Nixon; Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan)Conversation209-005 on Tape 209StartSunday, September 10, 1972 at 12:14 PMEndSunday, September 10, 1972 at 1:15 PMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 209-005 ↗

AI Summary

Julie Nixon Eisenhower and First Lady Pat Nixon met privately at the Aspen Lodge at Camp David to discuss personal matters. Due to the withdrawal of the audio recording, the specific details of their conversation remain restricted. The meeting concluded shortly before 1:15 pm, leaving no public record of substantive political discussions or action items.

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NARA Description

On September 10, 1972, Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 12:14 pm and 1:15 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 209-005 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 209-5

Date: September 10, 1972
Time: Unknown between 12:14 pm and 1:15 pm
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

Julie Nixon Eisenhower met with Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon.

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 9m 32s     ]

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Mrs. Nixon left at an unknown time before 1:15 pm.

Also recorded on September 10, 1972

  • 141-001 10:00 AM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 10:00 am and 11:44 am.
  • 141-002 11:44 AM · 10 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone at Camp David from 11:44 am to 12:14 pm.
  • 209-004 11:44 AM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 11:44 am to 12:14 pm.
  • 209-006 1:15 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:15 pm and 2:26 pm.
  • 209-007 1:15 PM · 13 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:15 pm and 2:26 pm.
  • 209-008 1:15 PM · 12 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:15 pm and 2:26 pm.
  • 178-001 2:26 PM · 8 sec — Unknown person(s) talked on the telephone at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 2:26 pm on September 10, 1972 and 1:05 pm on September 30, 1972.
  • 179-001 2:26 PM · 7 sec — Unknown person(s) talked on the telephone at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 2:26 pm on September 10, 1972 and 1:05 pm on September 30, 1972.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 209-005, September 10, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/209-005 (accessed October 9, 2026).