Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 214 › Conversation 214-016

Nixon phone call with Eisenhower on Camp David and Personal matters

Sunday, October 1, 1972 · 9:05 AM–4:06 PM ET · Camp David Hard Wire · 13 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan); Eisenhower, Julie NixonConversation214-016 on Tape 214StartSunday, October 1, 1972 at 9:05 AMEndMonday, October 2, 1972 at 4:06 PMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 214-016 ↗

Pat Nixon and her daughter, Julie Nixon Eisenhower, met informally at the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David. As the entire content of the conversation was designated as a personal returnable, the specific topics discussed remain restricted from the public record. No official policy decisions or administrative actions were documented as a result of this private family interaction.

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Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:05 am on October 1, 1972 and 4:06 pm on October 2, 1972. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 214-016 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 214-16

Date: Unknown between October 1 and 2, 1972
Time: Unknown between 9:05 am, October 1 and 4:06 pm, October 2, 1972
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon met with Julie Nixon Eisenhower.

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 1m 14s     ]

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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Mrs. Nixon left at an unknown time before 4:06 pm, October 2, 1972.
  • 214-008 9:05 AM · 13 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:05 am on October 1, 1972 and 4:06 pm on October 2, 1972.
  • 214-009 9:05 AM · 13 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:05 am on October 1, 1972 and 4:06 pm on October 2, 1972.
  • 214-010 9:05 AM · 9 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:05 am on October 1, 1972 and 4:06 pm on October 2, 1972.
  • 214-011 9:05 AM · 22 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Nelson Pierce met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:05 am on October 1, 1972 and 4:06 pm on October 2, 1972.
  • 214-012 9:05 AM · 13 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Charles G. ("Bebe") Rebozo met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:05 am on October 1, 1972 and 4:06 pm on October 2, 1972.
  • 214-013 9:05 AM · 9 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:05 am on October 1, 1972 and 4:06 pm on October 2, 1972.
  • 214-014 9:05 AM · 11 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Rita Di Santis met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:05 am on October 1, 1972 and 4:06 pm on October 2, 1972.
  • 214-015 9:05 AM · 13 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and unknown person(s) met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:05 am on October 1, 1972 and 4:06 pm on October 2, 1972.

Conversation 214-016, October 1, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/214-016 (accessed October 12, 2026).