Nixon White House TapesTape 213 › Conversation 213-035

Nixon phone call with Eisenhower on Camp David and Family life

Sunday, September 24, 1972 · 5:00 PM–9:12 PM ET · Camp David Hard Wire ·12 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan);  Eisenhower, Julie NixonConversation213-035 onTape 213StartSunday, September 24, 1972 at 5:00 PMEndSunday, September 24, 1972 at 9:12 PMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 213-035 ↗

Pat Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met at the Aspen Lodge in Camp David for an informal family visit. The recording primarily consists of personal conversation between the First Lady and her daughter, with no substantive policy or political matters discussed. The exchange concluded shortly before the recording system was deactivated.

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On September 24, 1972, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 5:00 pm and 9:12 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 213-035 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 213-35

                                       (rev. Oct-06)

Date: September 24, 1972
Time: Unknown between 5:00 pm and 9:12 pm
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon met with Julie Nixon Eisenhower.

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 4s        ]

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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Julie Nixon Eisenhower left at an unknown time before 9:12 pm.
  • 213-024 1:01 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:01 pm and 3:30 pm.
  • 213-025 1:01 PM · 14 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:01 pm and 3:30 pm.
  • 154-012 3:30 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 3:30 pm and 4:47 pm.
  • 213-031 3:30 PM · 27 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Camp David operator, and Rose Mary Woods met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 3:30 pm to 4:50 pm.
  • 154-013 4:46 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods talked on the telephone at Camp David from 4:46 pm to 4:47 pm.
  • 213-032 4:50 PM · 13 sec — Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 4:50 pm and 6:45 pm.
  • 213-033 4:50 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 4:50 pm and 6:45 pm.
  • 213-034 5:00 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 5:00 pm and 9:12 pm.

Conversation 213-035, September 24, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/213-035 (accessed September 18, 2026).