Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 213 › Conversation 213-032

Nixon phone call with Eisenhower on Camp David and Family

Sunday, September 24, 1972 · 4:50 PM–6:45 PM ET · Camp David Hard Wire · 45 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan); Eisenhower, Julie NixonConversation213-032 on Tape 213StartSunday, September 24, 1972 at 4:50 PMEndSunday, September 24, 1972 at 6:45 PMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 213-032 ↗ · National Archives Catalog, NAID 651228286 ↗

Pat Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower convened at the Aspen Lodge in Camp David for a personal meeting. The discussion, categorized as a personal returnable matter, involved private family interactions between the First Lady and her daughter. No official policy business or public developments were recorded during this brief encounter.

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This clip of the conversation was cut from the tape by the National Archives (catalog record ↗).

On September 24, 1972, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 4:50 pm and 6:45 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 213-032 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 213-32

Date: September 24, 1972
Time: Unknown between 4:50 pm and 6:45 pm
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon met with Julie Nixon Eisenhower.

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 36s        ]

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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Mrs. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower left at an unknown time before 6:45 pm.

No speech has been transcribed for this recording. An AI model that listened to the whole recording reported: The entire recording consists of a high-pitched test tone with no intelligible speech, corresponding to a withdrawn item. Material withdrawn by the National Archives (for privacy or national security) is replaced with a tone or silence in the released audio.

  • 213-024 1:01 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:01 pm and 3:30 pm.
  • 213-025 1:01 PM · 14 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:01 pm and 3:30 pm.
  • 154-012 3:30 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 3:30 pm and 4:47 pm.
  • 213-031 3:30 PM · 27 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Camp David operator, and Rose Mary Woods met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 3:30 pm to 4:50 pm.
  • 154-013 4:46 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods talked on the telephone at Camp David from 4:46 pm to 4:47 pm.
  • 213-033 4:50 PM · 46 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 4:50 pm and 6:45 pm.
  • 213-034 5:00 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 5:00 pm and 9:12 pm.
  • 213-035 5:00 PM · 12 sec — Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 5:00 pm and 9:12 pm.

Conversation 213-032, September 24, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives (NAID 651228286). Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/213-032 (accessed November 2, 2026).