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Eisenhower & Rebozo on campaign strategy and political appearances

Sunday, October 1, 1972 · 9:05 AM–4:06 PM ET · Camp David Hard Wire · 6 min

ParticipantsEisenhower, Julie Nixon; Rebozo, Charles G. ("Bebe")Conversation214-012 on Tape 214StartSunday, October 1, 1972 at 9:05 AMEndMonday, October 2, 1972 at 4:06 PMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 214-012 ↗ · National Archives Catalog, NAID 651228602 ↗

AI Summary

Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Charles G. "Bebe" Rebozo discussed campaign strategy, specifically concerning appearances and the allocation of time to different regions, with Julie expressing concern about potential voter apathy and Rebozo seemingly agreeing with a strategy of leaving decisions on campaign stops open until the last minute to address areas needing a push.

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NARA Description

Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Charles G. ("Bebe") Rebozo met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:05 am on October 1, 1972 and 4:06 pm on October 2, 1972. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 214-012 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 214-12

Date: Unknown between October 1 and 2, 1972
Time: Unknown between 9:05 am, October 1 and 4:06 pm, October 2, 1972
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

Julie Nixon Eisenhower talked with Charles G. ("Bebe") Rebozo.

[See Conversation No. 180-4; one item has been withdrawn from the conversation]

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EisenhowerHello? Hi, Bebe. Where are you now?
EisenhowerOh, is this a bad time to call?
EisenhowerGood. Yeah.

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EisenhowerThat's right.
EisenhowerWell, they're the ones who are making the decisions on the appearances, and maybe they think we're going to carry South Florida, and that we need to spend time in other areas. What's your feeling?
EisenhowerSee, I think that's their concern.
EisenhowerYeah.
EisenhowerHuh? What did you say?
EisenhowerOh, I don't know, Bebe. I'm afraid people are going to sit home.
EisenhowerYeah. I am, too.
EisenhowerIsn't it awful, Bebe?
EisenhowerIt is. Just unbelievable.
EisenhowerAnd yet, I see your feeling, if you think that that's the right Yeah.
EisenhowerThat's all right, but, but, I guess they just think that they just want to go to kind of hanging in the balance-type places. They want I think what they're doing is kind of leaving it open so that at the last minute we can go in where they think we need a push, so, I don't know.

Also recorded on October 1, 1972

  • 214-008 9:05 AM · 2 min — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:05 am on October 1, 1972 and 4:06 pm on October 2, 1972.
  • 214-009 9:05 AM · 3 min — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:05 am on October 1, 1972 and 4:06 pm on October 2, 1972.
  • 214-010 9:05 AM · 9 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:05 am on October 1, 1972 and 4:06 pm on October 2, 1972.
  • 214-011 9:05 AM · 22 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Nelson Pierce met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:05 am on October 1, 1972 and 4:06 pm on October 2, 1972.
  • 214-013 9:05 AM · 9 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:05 am on October 1, 1972 and 4:06 pm on October 2, 1972.
  • 214-014 9:05 AM · 2 min — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Rita Di Santis met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:05 am on October 1, 1972 and 4:06 pm on October 2, 1972.
  • 214-015 9:05 AM · 48 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and unknown person(s) met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:05 am on October 1, 1972 and 4:06 pm on October 2, 1972.
  • 214-016 9:05 AM · 2 min — Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:05 am on October 1, 1972 and 4:06 pm on October 2, 1972.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 214-012, October 1, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives (NAID 651228602). Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/214-012 (accessed October 31, 2026).