Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 223 › Conversation 223-021

Hirsch phone call on Camp David and Telephone installation

Sunday, October 22, 1972 · 11:36 AM–11:47 AM ET · Camp David Hard Wire · 48 sec

ParticipantsHirsch, William; [Unknown person(s)]Conversation223-021 on Tape 223StartSunday, October 22, 1972 at 11:36 AMEndSunday, October 22, 1972 at 11:47 AMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 223-021 ↗

AI Summary

William Hirsch met with an unidentified individual at the Aspen Lodge at Camp David to oversee technical adjustments to the facility's telephone infrastructure. The participants focused on the physical placement of a telephone unit and the logistical challenges posed by the length of the cord. The discussion concluded once the cabling issues were addressed.

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Okay.
Real fun.
Okay.
I really think it should, I guess, anyway, because that cord is going to be having to reach all the way over.
Right here, just a second.
Okay.
Let's see, one, two, and... Oh, that's very complicated.
Thanks.

NARA Description

On October 22, 1972, William Hirsch and unknown person(s) met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 11:36 am and 11:47 am. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 223-021 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 223-21

Date: October 22, 1972
Time: Unknown between 11:36 am and 11:47 am
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

William Hirsch and an unknown man met.

        Telephone in Aspen Lodge
            -Location
            -Jerry [last name unknown]

Hirsch and the unknown man left at an unknown time before 11:47 am.

Also recorded on October 22, 1972

  • 151-010 10:09 AM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 10:09 am and 10:10 am.
  • 223-019 10:09 AM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 10:09 am and 10:10 am.
  • 151-011 10:10 AM · 6 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. talked on the telephone at Camp David from 10:10 am to 10:16 am.
  • 223-020 10:10 AM · 4 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 10:10 am to 10:16 am.
  • 151-012 11:47 AM · 14 sec — William Hirsch and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at 11:47 am.
  • 370-026 12:15 PM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 12:15 pm and 12:45 pm.
  • 370-027 12:45 PM · 43 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Alexander M. Haig, Jr., and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 12:45 pm to 1:05 pm.
  • 370-028 1:05 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:05 pm and 3:06 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 223-021, October 22, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/223-021 (accessed October 10, 2026).