Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 231 › Conversation 231-009

Nixon phone call with Ziegler on White House reorganization

Monday, November 27, 1972 · 2:55 PM–3:03 PM ET · Camp David Hard Wire · 54 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.Conversation231-009 on Tape 231StartMonday, November 27, 1972 at 2:55 PMEndMonday, November 27, 1972 at 3:03 PMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 231-009 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon and Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler met to coordinate logistics for the President’s upcoming announcement regarding the administration's second-term reorganization. They discussed the technical requirements for the hangar venue, including lighting and sound arrangements, and the appropriate framing of the President’s remarks to the press. Nixon clarified that the event would feature a brief address rather than a formal question-and-answer session.

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Because we're up here, we do have all the film and all the radio.

It's a hangar.

And it's a good place.

I told them we had to set this up because we brought the babies in the house.

I said, talking to you today, I suggest that you have a personal word to him and you agree to do it.

I said, it's not a Q&A, it's just a little talk.

Talk to you briefly?

All right.

Well, it's on that basis.

All right.

Bye.

NARA Description

On November 27, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 2:55 pm to 3:03 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 231-009 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 231-9

Date: November 27, 1972
Time: 2:55 pm - 3:03 pm
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

The President met with Ronald L. Ziegler.

       [Unintelligible]

       The President’s forthcoming remarks on second term reorganization
            -Audience
                  -Size
                  -Film, radio people
            -Location
                  -Hangar
            -Arrangments
                  -Podium, sound system, lighting system
            -Ziegler’s statement to the press
                  -Announcements
                         -Timing
                  -The President’s possible conversation with the press
                         -Question and answer [Q & A] session

The President and Ziegler left at 3:03 pm.

Also recorded on November 27, 1972

156-004 11:20 AM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 11:20 am and 12:05 pm.
156-005 11:20 AM · 5 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Tricia Nixon Cox talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 11:20 am and 12:05 pm.
156-006 11:20 AM · 16 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 11:20 am and 3:03 pm.
231-004 11:20 AM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 11:20 am and 12:05 pm.
231-005 11:20 AM · 4 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Tricia Nixon Cox met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 11:20 am and 12:05 pm.
231-006 11:20 AM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon, John V. Brennan, and Manolo Sanchez met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 11:20 am and 12:05 pm.
231-007 11:20 AM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 11:20 am and 12:05 pm.
231-008 11:20 AM · 14 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and John V. Brennan met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 11:20 am and 12:05 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 231-009, November 27, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/231-009 (accessed October 10, 2026).