Nixon White House Tapes ›Tape 24 › Conversation 024-148

Nixon phone call with an unidentified caller on Personal communication

Tuesday, May 16, 1972 · 10:11 AM–10:12 AM ET · White House Telephone

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan)Conversation024-148 onTape 24 (tape position 03:35:35–03:36:28)StartTuesday, May 16, 1972 at 10:11 AMEndTuesday, May 16, 1972 at 10:12 AMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 024-148 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon held a brief, informal telephone conversation with First Lady Pat Nixon. The discussion involved personal matters and family considerations, as indicated by the withdrawal of the content under personal privacy provisions. No official policy decisions or political actions were recorded during this exchange.

Audio

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Transcript (AI-generated)

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NARA Description

On May 16, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon talked on the telephone from 10:11 am to 10:12 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 024-148 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 24-148

Date: May 16, 1972

Time: 10:11 am - 10:12 am
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon.

[See also Conversation No. 725-21]

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Also recorded on May 16, 1972

  • 024-145 9:59 AM · 6 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 9:59 am and 10:00 am.
  • 725-018 9:59 AM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 9:59 am and 10:00 am.
  • 024-146 10:00 AM · 5 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon, and Walter R. Tkach talked on the telephone from 10:00 am to 10:05 am.
  • 725-019 10:00 AM · 9 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon, and Walter R. Tkach met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:00 am and 10:05 am.
  • 725-020 10:05 AM · 49 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:05 am and 10:11 am.
  • 725-021 10:11 AM · 7 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:11 am and 10:12 am.
  • 725-022 10:12 AM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:12 am and 10:23 am.
  • 725-023 10:12 AM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:12 am and 10:23 am.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 024-148, May 16, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/024-148 (accessed September 18, 2026).