Conversation 252-017

TapeTape 252StartWednesday, April 28, 1971 at 4:33 PMEndWednesday, April 28, 1971 at 4:47 PMTape start time00:34:51Tape end time00:43:01ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Colson, Charles W.Recording deviceOld Executive Office Building

On April 28, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 4:33 pm to 4:47 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 252-017 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 252-17

Date: April 28, 1971
Time: 4:33 pm - 4:47 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with Charles W. Colson

[See Conversation No. 42-68]

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I mean, he was one of the ones that found me.
Oh, I see.
I don't know how long he's been here.
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Yeah.
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Of course, the thing is that it's just an uncomfortable sensation.
I don't know what you can do with them, but I'll tell you this.
I want to be sure that the British have got the word.
Not a thing for CBS on that spin-off.
It's complicated as hell.
I don't know.
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Oh, I know.
I think it's a good idea, but I think he's going to be disappointed with the fact that it's damn less than he thinks.
do you think we're going to get 10 minutes or 5, 10 minutes, you know, people never think of us, they think of the other way around.
Another thing, too, is how about the Packers, how are they doing?
How are they doing?
What do you mean?
I don't need to demonstrate anything.
Right, well that certainly doesn't help hurt our cause, does it?
And then basically you turn it off, but...
Some of our softies think that stuff should have been done that way.
They're absolutely wrong, but Water pointed out the problem that way.
Finally did something smart.
That's right.
What the hell, they're going to go in and bring this awesome stuff close to them.
Sure.
I think it's very important.
I'm thinking out of this post, and I think we know that we can inside.
We may be the defender we react to.
He thinks we do, you know, of course.
And I don't think we are.
I think as many of the members, you know, I think there was a few things.
I think we're going to come out on our own.
I mean, we didn't get cracked.
I don't know.
We'll get it again tomorrow night.
You know, just keep this going.
You understand that the power we have in the presence, that will wash it out in a few weeks.
We have to go on again.
So it's hard work.
And the trouble is, we haven't got anybody who's had confidence in Captain.
Of course, we're going to need him now.
You know, he's good, though.
You know, before everyone got down, they were saying, you know, finally, everything's going to be on.
He's positive.
How are you going to get into the process
I don't know if you've ever heard of it, but I think in terms of making news, you've never seen it before.
I don't know if you've ever heard of it, but I think in terms of making news, you've never seen it before.
I don't know if you've ever heard of it, but I think in terms of making news, you've never seen it before.
You know, even the high flyers are beginning to go down.
So you get a lot of high flyers.
High flyers.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You've got to understand, I'm not going to change, not one day, not a lot of people want to go, not a lot of people want to go, they want to go, they want to go, they want to go, they want to go, they want to go, they want to go, they want to go, they want to go, they want to go, they want to go, they want to go,
It's very possible that they may not make them, you know, and try to, uh, you know, try to enjoy them.
Yeah.
Well, they go back to California, they can't go to any other country, but they should never really make them.
They're against the bill, but they're going to find a way to feed them.
I agree.
I've said it myself.
I don't know where you can call back on this.