On June 9, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Rose Mary Woods, Manolo Sanchez, White House operator, Marjorie P. Acker, and Henry A. Kissinger met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 8:25 am to 9:20 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 255-028 of the White House Tapes.
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You let us know that you had a child.
Yeah, I got it.
It took, you heard of it, and yours are so beautiful.
Well, mine isn't cursed.
They don't have her address in it.
Okay.
But I don't know.
They may have written her.
That's what we're checking.
I don't want to check to see if it was making a difference.
I've written the letter in a way.
Then read it again.
I know.
I realize that.
So I just send it.
That's all.
I got an overriding.
They're not very well organized.
They're not trying to get it organized.
I got an overriding.
I said, in the future, whenever they send a note there to indicate it hasn't been replied to, it has not been replied to.
I thought they did when they sent it.
They don't.
They don't.
They just send it out and they go and I don't know how to get rid of them or not.
We're telling them to call something else.
Now what they have to do is send a letter to me.
That's what we were doing, getting answers to put on council.
We do have a letter that can go.
I'm just kidding.
Let me give you a couple of other things.
I think various people that they're having problems and so forth.
And I think that would be a good one to have an expert in this field on this idea.
It's not a bad idea, actually.
I just haven't got the time now to sit down and talk about it.
But I would like to be involved in crime.
I'm sure that's a pretty good thought.
Who's idea is the good one here?
I like the idea, and I will, I'll have it, I'll have it mine.
Tell him that.
You had me call him to tell him that.
What?
That he was going to be sick.
He doesn't get it.
It was good, but you had to tie it.
Well, you already told me.
Yeah, you would try to do it, but you would prefer it to be those things.
Yeah, that's right.
But I can tell you, you don't have to do it.
Yeah, so we had to find, he didn't probe around to see what we did.
I just don't want to put something out that's just solely for somebody else.
So I called them and told them that.
I know.
You had it for the other day, and then you had to go on with that meeting.
Henry Jackson is a trust material.
Okay.
Well, that's on the way.
Berners used to buy it.
Yeah.
Berners?
Yeah.
We're not buying any members of the House or Senate.
But Trisha did work for him, and Bob Hope and all that crowd, you know,
I suggest that you ask Patrick, you know, on a credit card, where a couple of other computers are going to be equal.
You can call George and say, where are we?
We don't know what we're getting into.
We're heading to the White House.
We're going to be here for the rest of the afternoon.
We're going to be here for the rest of the afternoon.
We're going to be here for the rest of the afternoon.
I say that because she has a few friends, like Bob Odle.
Oh, those are her people.
Okay, you mean the ones here?
Our family people, Patricia had Bob Odle, and that kid from UCLA, she's been with all of them.
They all go out together.
I know.
That's a different group.
I know, I know, but I mean, they're White House people.
That's right, that's all right.
They're her friends.
No, the only White House people are Joseph and Flanagan.
There's all the systems on them.
I cut everybody else off.
And John Davies is the only one I guess who's not.
Who's not the best?
Davies.
I listed all of them at the time.
Well, I know of a group.
We had so damn many on there that we had to take some more.
No, no.
I just put it down.
We ran down there all over.
It was the Davies and Jack Sherwood.
I can't remember who else marked them, and we can regret it, but then, um, Tricia, as she should, added a few more people, and you added those publishers, and so... No, she didn't pick them.
Oh, yes, she did.
Thirteen people.
Right.
Thirteen people were added.
Tricia called out a social office when they were added.
Some of them are coming, some can't come.
One is going home.
Mike told us that there are hospitals that have operations.
That's where it ends.
That's where it ends.
But the number is so that you can do marketing, to do a couple of things.
Even though we don't know it, we don't have it.
We don't have it.
And the ones, all of like Schultz, um, Rumsfeld, Finch, the ones with Kevin Finch.
Oh, Manny?
Of course not.
Manny and Kevin.
Early?
Manny and early Miss Halden.
Okay.
Was everybody else consistent?
Well, but they were put on again because they shouldn't have.
And Harry Clyde.
Clyde and Harry Clyde.
Ray Pryor.
Ray Pryor.
Well, that's... As you can.
That's got to be right, because...
But they're not heading halfway through the line all the way to Staten Island.
That's right.
That's right.
He's not.
He isn't the same guy.
That's right.
What do you find?
Well, that's the problem.
We can't run that through that list.
That's right.
We can't run that through that list.
Well, there's no way to, you know, there's no way to have everything.
I think, I think Dr. Whitehouse, I think it was very... John H.?
Well, maybe, I suppose he should, but when you look at some of the other people around him, who have known him longer than John H.?
Well... You can't put all... John H. is the one that... ...worked with all that crowd over there.
Yeah, he does.
I think John Davis should.
I think Jack Sherwood should be.
He was the first Secret Service man.
He carried other kids around with him.
Plus, we'd never be here.
Yeah, but that won't matter.
Rex is, because we've got Rex as a thing, too.
Rex should be out in the showroom, too.
I didn't call him.
Before you gave him the ushers, Pat was going to have me call.
I mean the publisher.
I think she had Pat Dunbar.
Patricia was kind of fighting Rock now, and his wife, yes.
Who's Rock?
The little pal who was the author of these things.
He's the one who sort of ran through his wedding.
Now he's around Patricia.
He's the third.
The last three.
Those three.
Those three calls.
And Frank Jarvis, but we did not call him.
I don't know if you've heard of him yet.
Can I ask you about on the Finch party, which is Saturday night?
Yes.
Have you asked them if they have that at your table house or something?
They have a table house.
All right.
I didn't.
And I'll tell you what else I thought, because when I talked to him yesterday, he was going to call Jack, or Elaine, and tell Jack that we'd like them to be a third co-host in the background, to keep people who came in front of him.
And that way, he'd be sure to get them out of the way.
Because Helene answered when they went to a bicycle, was, well, you know, my children want things to see everything from the very end or something, which means she thinks it would be the last person on the White House.
And so Bob thought, if I haven't something, maybe telling them anyway, they're back, I hope.
We told Bob, now, there's no problem on his back.
That's great.
And I'll take that out of the text.
Thank you.
Did you, uh, did Billy bring the money?
No.
No, I've never talked to him, sir.
He is very attached, because I've got to call him.
I've got a list of money.
Right, I've got to call him.
Can I have a chance to bring that over?
It'll only take you a minute.
I've got to call him about, you know, I have to call him about, uh, you know, the honor of America Day.
I don't know.
Would you like to go back and call him, please?
Back.
You know, the original, there is, I cannot remember.
I just got to go.
Can't call it now.
It's too late.
Good night, Lars.
It's a great opportunity to meet with you.
See what I thought of it.
I really don't think we can beat this.
Look at L.A., when the pitch is there, they'll all want to play you through everything.
L.A. can send you through everything.
Then they should do what's due when I'm supposed to leave.
Somebody's got to leave sometime.
Well, isn't everybody supposed to leave when the bride leaves?
When the bride leaves, that's when the reception's over.
And the thing is that I think, when you unpack all the pigeons, don't be sure you didn't get a pig.
Well, if Christ had done that, I think it was kind of natural.
He's a pigeon.
You have to go after Patricia and Pat, and Julie, and I would say that's it.
I don't think she even asked me to come.
Oh, Christ.
I don't know her.
Even the end of the house, she turned around and said something about there was weather.
She'd weathered where that rally went.
Well, I might have to go.
You might have to, but you don't have to go beyond that.
No friends, because once now, if you start, you don't stand a chance.
She's too dumb.
But she's rather than blind, believe me.
Oh, I know, I know, but she doesn't do it.
I mean, I just say, question and agree.
I know.
She's better than a lot of the others.
But if I do her, then I've got to use all the Ryan chips.
That's right.
And, uh... And, uh... Well, I'm not going to do it.
I am not going to do it.
She is.
I don't think so.
She is such a witch.
Well, I'll tell you what I was just going to say to you.
I don't want us.
I've thought more about it.
I don't think we're bad or anybody.
We saw her in others.
Oh, no, you can't do that.
The thing that I can do is look away.
You've got to handle it in a way that she doesn't come around to you.
If you say they get in tonight, you don't want to come.
They arrive in Ellicott on the 5th of July, about 5 o'clock.
Can anybody advise them to get in tonight?
That is the problem tonight.
And the two boys, they surely won't arrive with the boys who have not been around here at all.
And, and not leave them.
But you see, um, it's a great thing tonight.
Oh, yes, I can.
Very grand.
If I had them, I'd have a friend.
You know, sure, of course, because he doesn't like him.
I can't do it.
I can't do it.
Yeah, I don't mind if you do it because of me.
Oh, sure you do.
Fair enough.
It's a thing that you can't get here, but young, new, white guy can't do it.
What?
What?
What?
What?
What?
What?
What?
What?
One, two, three, four.
Well, on this thing tonight, I guess there's nothing, you know, you need to do then.
He'll come tonight.
But I think we've just got to let it go, Rose.
I agree.
He does feel strong, as I told you.
Yeah.
On this though, so how do we handle this?
I'm afraid we left a call.
If we kept the call, we're off.
Yeah, sure.
I'm worried.
Given the tent, yes, we will.
And I just don't want to have a tent.
I don't want to have a tent.
Well, we'll do the best we can.
But now, wait a minute.
At least we've got her set for Thursday.
She doesn't want her Thursday.
She was invited.
Well, she's gone.
Friday night is your year.
Well, she's coming for that.
We'll see her there.
What about Thursday night?
I'll see her there.
I don't know if I invited her to the party, but I'll see her there.
That's good.
Where are you going?
You just have to be clear with me.
You have to.
Tonight Trish is having her maid of honor and all those things.
Trish is not inviting a lady tonight.
She is not inviting a lady tonight.
And I couldn't swear to anything, you know.
I'm not going to say anything.
I don't even know who all is going to be there.
I'm not doing anything for you.
It's crazy to get into this business.
Trish is going to call.
She'll be here.
I'll let you know when she's there tonight.
That's how they get income.
Will you check to see whether the square is available tonight?
It is available, I can tell you that, because he held it.
I talked to him yesterday on the internet, I said he has to come.
Campbell said he just put a hold on it for the whole week.
Thinking that, you know, you mentioned the paper, Trisha and Edmund want to go tonight.
And also the paper, you want to go on Instagram.
Well, Pat will be busy, I don't think.
Tomorrow night I'm all set, obviously.
Hopefully.
You're a Mrs. Brown, but Haley is not, and I don't think she would do that.
Okay.
I told Julie and Sam, I talked to them.
Why did I watch Julie?
I said, I think, you know, I said, Julie, one time I think you will be well on the members.
Elaine, it's not as good for your mother as you think, because you're not around her now, she's there.
I think that must be some, and I'm sure that's that, because I think Julie has encouraged it, thinking it was all a good, good path.
That does it.
It tells us all that.
I don't know if that's true.
I don't know if that's true.
I don't know if that's true.
But what I'm saying, I didn't like it.
I didn't like it myself.
I didn't like it.
I don't know if that's true.
I'm going to make a point not to get trapped in that, and they shouldn't be coming today, or what in the hell if they come with their kids?
They are, their kids are coming.
Yeah, but they're coming the next day.
No, the daughter and her husband are coming the next day.
Larry and Bruce are coming with them tonight.
Oh, well, that's good.
Bruce wants people to think she's back here, even if she doesn't depend on him, she wants everyone to see her.
I guess she does some goddamn folktales now, huh?
Oh, oh, I know her from hearing the other people.
I had some of the articles that she gives out.
She gave out about some kind of thing.
That way, as far as you know.
You can vote every night next week in case you want to do that.
I had the idea that you might go out on them.
And my owner said yesterday, if she moves in on Sunday, I think you ought to take...
I'll go on.
If they hear it in one of the cabins or with any of them, I'll just go on and just stay on.
Yeah.
You're too, I really mean it.
You are too important to this country.
I know.
That's true.
That's true.
It's really a little less nice.
You know, I've got a, I've got a very important service.
I've got a lot of money.
I've got a lot of money.
I've got a lot of money.
I've got a lot of money.
I've got a lot of money.
I've got a lot of money.
I've got a lot of money.
One night off, I can see her.
I don't think she'll bring Jack and all the kids today if it's Monday night because they're in a hotel room.
She wouldn't think they could all come and pick her up.
I don't think Jack and the kids will go back on Monday morning.
Is that how long their hotel room is?
But they do care.
They care deeply.
They're the ones who called.
They did.
But we can't learn to get them together with you around.
Because then the two of them sort of badger at you, or are negative about you.
And that's what we can't have.
So let Elaine and Jack, let them drive past crazy for a while.
Later, I'll tell you, that weekend at Camp David, and she got rid of it the next morning.
She told Elaine she was busy.
Oh, we couldn't leave her.
So that's the only answer I have.
Hello, I bring you back.
Yeah, yeah, are you free now?
All right.
Well, let's do it then.
But I decided, though, that next year, I'm not going to allow it.
Remember, next year, I'm not going to allow anything to interfere.
I'm going to be ruthless.
I'm going through the wedding thing because I have to, you know.
Oh, of course.
And I go home every night, and I do everything I can, and I get everybody, you know, and I... Once you're through this wedding thing, then once you're through this wedding thing, you've got to just date for 18 months from now.
You're exactly right.
I've got to do less than that for 15 months.
That's right.
My point is, I've just got to do it.
I've got to get everybody to start helping me.
There's no busy buttering around here, you know.
Well, I'm going to, if we get out of California, or if I go anywhere from now, when I have a chance to talk, at the right moment, I'll go out there.
I think you can handle the children pretty well, and I understand that completely.
After all, I understand the deep dedication of those who, you know, like your tradition.
Well, I don't think they can call the minute they got in.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Say that again, will you, Daddy?