Conversation 262-009

TapeTape 262StartMonday, July 19, 1971 at 5:10 PMEndMonday, July 19, 1971 at 5:35 PMTape start time03:49:36Tape end time04:15:30ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Kissinger, Henry A.Recording deviceOld Executive Office Building

On July 19, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 5:10 pm to 5:35 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 262-009 of the White House Tapes.

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Well, tell me about your meeting with Mr. Keith.
Oh, yeah.
How was your set?
I thought they were exhaled.
Oh, yeah.
They were out of the plane.
I'd like to speak with her.
They're really all right.
As we've had them in the set today, we're not so pleased.
Both the French and the Spanish, they're not so pleased with what she does, too.
I think it's too late.
I don't think the story is now set in.
I'm not going to undo it.
Then we did something that was good.
They're not going to come in and preempt it.
They'll give it longer.
It's going to go a lot more than they needed it to.
Well, I don't agree with that guy.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
And let me, let me be honest with you.
We did a picture about the very first flight.
It was the first flight we did.
And it was very, very good.
It was the, the exit.
Only so many of us could get on the plane.
And so many of us could get on the plane.
And so many of us could get on the plane.
And it was quite a trip.
And it was very, very good.
And it was very, very good.
My instructions to the president, I don't care what the challenge is.
My instructions to the president, to the president, to the president.
I said, I told you, and I said, moreover, I said, I told you six months ago that you couldn't believe it, and I said, but when you said you wanted it, and I said, and I said, and I said, and I said, and I said, and I said, and I said,
And they had already made the decision.
We were getting ready to fix the day.
You better not get ready to fix the day now, or what can I do?
The principal, he had the first word in our meeting.
He said, would you be willing to come before the meeting?
I said, I'm in charge.
He said, we have to go around the order.
And he said, would you be willing to announce it?
So what I think, I said, then he said, what did you do?
I said, I don't know what he thinks.
So what I think is going to happen now, unless they make public releases which are very tough, which could be 20%, maybe 30%, I think they're going to come back.
I think we can announce in Moscow Sunday that we're going to go to Kenya and then we'll actually help the Chinese because they need to make assets and go to Moscow.
And the sequence that I now see is, I might go eating at the end of September, at the end in August, and then around the summit we'll eat it.
And while I'm eating, tell them that you will announce the summit for one cup.
And then at the end of October announce the summit for one cup during the end of March.
But I think you could have one spectacular and another ridiculous.
The other trip to Kenya came out quite a bit.
Why?
She doesn't even know.
But I've been calling to her and I let her know.
She's a great example.
I will go over to her and talk to her.
I'm going to give her a message.
Okay, it's spring, actually.
I think what I would do is say, they've got to come in and set, and I hope that they do it at the weekend.
And they've got to come in with a specific proposal or something like that.
Then he asked me, he said it would really help, he said it would give us a chance to speak with him.
Of course, we went on speaking, but I gave him the three things that I was going to give him.
He said, if you discuss it with me, I don't know what to say.
I said, we don't know what to say.
He said, well, are they more interesting than that?
I said, no.
But I'm going to get a note or two and I'm going to get a letter.
And it's going to be back in a minute.
It's going to be back in a minute.
It's going to be back in a minute.
It's going to be back in a minute.
This was the first time he said it, and I couldn't believe anything.
Everyone was impressed with him.
He pulled our heads hard, and I thought it was the best thing that could have happened to George.
He said that to all of us.
David Robinson, of course, was the greatest developer of the 70s.
I wonder if this means that people now are totally unrecognizable, and the next meeting is going to be, you know, how the hell are we going to get out of here?
I think they've got to settle now because if we, the President, if we get a Russian summit, I think that all and other things would be, you know, not be a test.
What can you really say to this guy?
He said, I thought he was doing a natural process, but he said that we were both trying to do a little Chinese and French, and he said, you know, it's fine.
Yeah, yeah.
He said about India and Pakistan, he asked me what my impression was.
He talked to me with a little respect.
Then I had a conversation with him.
I was always with him in the bathroom.
You know, another thing, too.
It's a good thing.
But he has been playing in here for years.
By many reasons.
He was totally on the road.
And if you think, by any means of prediction, that you would save yourself, you would have tripled up the news.
But if you held it and not exposed the news, would you not?
That's something that should happen.
That's something that should happen.
And who would be God's man?
Which other American political figures would have just had to be the fronters to take the drive, the congressional action, for two months?
without saying to you this morning, I don't have nothing to tell you.
It's a very, I settled off of it.
It's a big curve.
It'll be, there's a reason for it.
Go ahead, now.
This is in Vindhyan, India.
The first secretary of the Noyan Party in Vindhyan, which I grew very close to the most, was called the French.
I'm the president-in-chief of the Karstakya Kinshasa.
So I eventually went to the U.S. today, and I was never enough to talk against the U.S. in China.
And Sam, as the first Secretary, wasn't extremely upset to say it.
A co-offensive that was written between them at that time, and angered his side of the table, he mangled simply to do it.
When Stalin had received all the churros from our own diplomatic players in the U.S., the United States would be supporting him, as we know, forces throughout the globe.
The town's language is not in its fullest sense at all.
The enemy is not the Communist Party National Committee of the United Nations, because they do not respond to the Soviet objectives.
According to what they have implied, it should reside on a very similar channel to the Communist Party Central Committee in China, and would similarly be overruled.
I don't believe that, because he might discover that, that he will be thrown.
but it shows how strong we received.
Of course, I said that Hans made an analogy and he dissolved it.
I did an analogy and he dissolved it, and he took it with the combination of the Chinese thought of it.
Hans said that he had once had an American friend with whom he worked in the 60s, and who told Hans that he believed it would be a good reason to leave.
I told Hans that he had met a Chinese,
that he had told his friends that this was not the case because he didn't speak the Chinese.
He could not speak the same language.
Khan went on to criticize Guo Fei for sending his child to a Chinese school in India, saying that he would only hurt children.
That's the news.
That's the news.
Well, they turned on the church.
If anyone had said, if you had asked in February, then by July it would be.
Hanoi was going to make these comments.
And when I said on television that I didn't think China would attack us in hours, the Cal brothers were cutting me to pieces.
And remember the guy, the guy from Chicago, remember him?
In Canterbury or Chicago.
He got it more, he got it more.
That's right.
Yeah, I know him.
On April 7th.
He actually put it up.
That's right.
He put it up.
He put it up.
Three days before we got to Atlanta.
Yeah.
No, I don't think so.
I don't think so.
I thought I'd see in my man a much, very gentle defense.
I put it right into their hearts.
They know now I'm not, I'm not a leader, I just lead in general.
We know what we're doing.
We've got the whole party around the world over here.
what the Christ is their option.
Except, I guess, in my own.
Well, Mr. President, I think there is one point I make as a preacher is to tell you now, we'll just give that voice that will do something else.
And I think the Russians have nothing to do with it, but they can, they can try to do enough to those people, more than those people we can try to do them another thing.
The drums have to decide whether to have it both run directly or not, and it's going to be one or the other.
I can tell the green is what I want, but I know it's going to be the other.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Now.
Now.
I think Joe Ellis said he was going to flip his lid.
He did?
Any other comments?
They have only their biggest friend, the defense president, George, and the head of their atomic entity program.
And the big number they will receive here by the President, the Chairman, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and the International Security Council.
And I think, yeah, yeah, I'm sure, I think that's true.
I think that's what we have.
all this crap all this time.
You know, I knew those leaders.
They were, uh, they were, uh, we didn't hear them.
And none of them were screaming out of their graves.
Howard was the only one who said, well, you know, not me, sir.
He said, sir, it's difficult.
It's very difficult.
I should have, I should have met several of them.
There'd be some of them speaking to you.
Well, you know, they were clinging on to us.
That's what we've had to check.
And it's the other thing, a lot of them, they have to sit down.
They will.
And really cool office, certainly.
Well, they accept it.
They accept it.
It's different from the last one.
There, they have a summit, and not an anthem.
Here, we've announced we're going to have one, so the anticipation keeps growing.
Early September, we can announce it.
And then I'm back from that, you know, today.
And you're absolutely right to say that the state jailers say that they are.
But I've got to be able to talk to you about the living of what they did.
We've got to play it out.
We can't afford to say that he can't afford to do it.
So we've got to get the basics, but it's not the answer.
What we've got to do is to make a conversation with Rameco about that, so that we know which sequence we're going to follow, and what is part of it, so that he doesn't have to have to deal with the typical part of the dress that he needs.
And the media knows members who present to all your meetings.
You've got
You've got to remember now, you were a Christian.
And now you're a Christian.
It's perfect.
It's me, perfect.
That's very perfect.
That's why I also want to be bored with the documents.
You had the things you always had.
And now that will allow you to get more important.
But I think we have
I said, you could bring it.
Oh, he said, it's the whole thing.
It's going along fine.
It's going along fine.
He said, we're not making any conditions.
He just thought he had you up there.
He said, it's the whole thing.
I said, it's the whole thing.
Now he says, I said, it's going along fine.
I said, it's the whole thing.
So now I've got to say, although I was pretty good, I didn't think we had a meeting before.
Ah, never.
Never.
Never.
Never.
Never.
Never.
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Never.
Never.
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Never.
Never.
All right.
Well, get a rest before your 7 o'clock.
All right.
Have a long day.