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Nixon & Helms on CIA and personnel changes

Tuesday, April 11, 1972 · 2:06 PM–2:08 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 1 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Helms, Richard M.Conversation329-021 on Tape 329 (tape position 01:18:54–01:20:35)StartTuesday, April 11, 1972 at 2:06 PMEndTuesday, April 11, 1972 at 2:08 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 329-021 ↗

President Nixon met with CIA Director Richard Helms to emphasize the urgency of executing pending personnel and organizational changes within the intelligence agency. Nixon pressed Helms to implement these adjustments as thoroughly as possible. The brief exchange focused on accelerating the pace of internal restructuring efforts.

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Can I ask you to
As much as you possibly can.
As much as you possibly can.
We're making all sorts of remaining changes.

On April 11, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Richard M. Helms met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:06 pm to 2:08 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 329-021 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 329-21

Date: April 11, 1972
Time: 2:06 pm - 2:08 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with Richard M. Helms.
[See Conversation No. 22-109]
  • 022-108 1:14 PM · 6 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 1:14 pm and 2:06 pm.
  • 022-109 2:06 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Richard M. Helms talked on the telephone from 2:06 pm to 2:08 pm.
  • 329-022 2:08 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:08 pm and 2:45 pm.
  • 329-023 2:08 PM · 12 min — President Richard M. Nixon met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:08 pm and 2:45 pm.
  • 329-024 2:08 PM · 30 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:08 pm and 2:45 pm.
  • 329-025 2:08 PM · 6 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:08 pm and 2:45 pm.
  • 329-026 2:45 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:45 pm to 2:55 pm.
  • 706-004 2:57 PM · 5 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Alexander P. Butterfield, and John D. Ehrlichman met in the Oval Office of the White House from 2:57 pm to 3:03 pm.

Conversation 329-021, April 11, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/329-021 (accessed October 1, 2026).