Nixon & Ziegler on Watergate and Press Relations

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Yeah, I know.

I've got to check the script.

There's another one here.

Sometimes it's worth a turn.

All right.

This pen particularly went the wrong way.

I may have to move it over.

With regard to this specialty, I think I've got to...

I'm going to go with this section.

I think there's a suggestion about not being on a blockade, etc.

But when you talk about hiding in the White House, I'm not going to make a three-minute speech.

I'm not hiding in the White House.

I spoke in the 50 states for three years in this campaign.

I discussed those issues.

Well, I tend to agree with you because I think it becomes totally offensive.

Well, I don't mean too much to say.

I mean, parts that I've heard in the last 24 hours suggest that this particular chapter is going to be significant, which is untrue, of course.

So, somebody said that.

Right.

Now...

You can dilute that by simply having it very quickly.

The wrong way to do it is either answer it in about a thirty-five second, and I'll respond to you every way.

And I'll make the point that it's impossible or hard to do, the person has to be responsible.

You will just say, don't, because I told you I was never going to be the guy who was responsible for the suppression of the progressives in session.

That's what I'm doing, period.

Darryl, I don't think you even have to say that because we have to hear it from you.

I don't.

I will if you're not in the election.

Yeah, I agree.

It's a very open moment.

But I think that the idea that

I've heard it reported.

Let me ask you one thing.

On the product field, the two that I understand, they'll knock it out in about a second.

Some people worry that they didn't make it work.

That speculation doesn't look good.

But, the thing on Vietnam, obviously, there was talk of , but on Vietnam, from a news standpoint, they will be looking for any indication from you of hope on one side, or pessimism on the other side.

So, they do this to you?

Yes, just to you.

Because I think it's cost you from a global standpoint.

That's right.

So, to get into some of the discussions that have been going on the entire time, the trade, from the Jews to the Jew thing.

Here again, that's been covered down here.

We've been in New York for a few years now.

I would not be in that position.

I don't want to say that this is an accident.

I'm afraid to say that.

And I think what's critical, as the President favored or not favored, tied the trade to it.

We have not committed ourselves to it either way.

As a matter of fact, they understand that, the President understands that.

So, therefore, I just say, gentlemen, our position, stay down on how we intend to approach this, and it would be appropriate to say it was a burden.

Because if you commit on the ribbon call, then that is true.

I'm sorry, I meant to ask you a question.

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you.

I didn't mean to interrupt you.

I appreciate it.

I'm sorry.

The question is, do you...

Yes, it's appropriate enough that I want to say that, but you have to put me against it.

I'm against it, but you don't know what you ought to do.

No, I don't think we should position ourselves on the point.

I mean, by what you have said, up to this point, it is clear to implication that you're against it.

I also hear it's a mistake when I'm getting such great detail on a piece that I didn't make.

It's a good dance move, and I'm very, very impressed with it.

I always did this, and I was kind of in a louse for a certain reason, but we went ahead and did this, and I think that was it.

I think it was a good mistake, and I always handled it as well.

Oh, I think that's not good.

But I mean, why not?

I don't know the name of anybody who made it into that because it's wrong.

It's forgotten.

Mr. Elias got some good press the other day supporting him.

I just think he didn't figure out what was the matter with him.

We're interested in our efforts to get him back.

Well, Mr. President, it seems he preferred to be downed in with the anti-war groups here, groups like the members.

I wonder if wise

For you to program the state?

I don't think so.

That way.

Okay.

First.

Okay.

I feel this is not working.

All right, let's do a little stroke for that.

Oops, that's all.

and other sequels.

They're the number one war maker in the world and they sure like it.

They won't forget it, but I'll get that in.

Don't worry.

I'm not going to let them forget it that way.

It's a little bit much.

It's very important.

It's very important for you to remember that that way.

There's something about that in the job.

Then go ahead.

Well, I think the question comes to me like that.

Probably.

Simply to say, gentlemen, I'm not going to, excuse me, just comment on, I'm not going to defend a number of statements made along this line, you know, because you want to make me hit reply, make me in a better way, but don't, don't get in the way of, you know, being more responsive to it.

I just, I will not attend a statement.

Absolutely.

Yes, I know.

Statements have been brought to my attention.

including a policy that would be all-day.

Our policy tonight is to structure the government for that time, and see whether or not we're going to follow the word of God, and see whether or not we're going to be discriminated against, and see whether or not we're going to be discriminated against, and see whether or not we're going to be discriminated against

.

Yeah, that's fine.

That's good.

Well, I'd say let's call this better policy.

I just want to do that again.

I think if you say the drug doesn't put it in your mouth, then I would think that's the drug.

But I think there's a question, and I know this may not be possible.

I was asked whether or not, by Don mostly,

He said, Rob, are you saying that Jim Clayton is prepared to die?

They may ask you that question.

They're asking me that question.

I don't know what's happened to him.

Then I ask you that question.

When I wrote it yesterday in a version, I just put it down just as effectively as I was supposed to put it down.

Put it down just as effectively as I was supposed to put it down.

Oh, what is this?

It's the business about some meeting system.

I don't know what that is.

I don't know what it is.

But when it was activated, we got... Oh, Jack Anderson had a column on this.

When did Jack raise it?

Who raised it?

I was asked by... Three questions, but by the same reporter.

Jim Beacon.

There you go.

What did you say?

31...

I saw a lot of these things going on.

Well, I said something just about that.

I saw a lot about your department, you said.

But it's a rather, rather remarkable kind of person.

I don't know if anybody would put it out right now, maybe.

They put in, uh, they put in through capital letters the pool, that big, big glass thing.

You know why that's there?

Because it's bulletproof, right?

They've got bulletproof glass.

All the windows have to be, you've got the bulletproof craft in front of the house.

And, uh, they changed the heating system because it didn't work and apparently it was very early.

I just, that's what I told them.

I said, look, I'm going to go to the Secret Service on this one.

I'm going to go to the Secret Service.

Yes, sir.

What did they say?

They said, for security reasons, they put in the buckets and did other electrical work, such as, like, running conduits and TV submersion, surveillance cameras and everything like that.

So, they went to the White House and put it there.

I don't know.

Well, they've been kind of hard.

Thank you.

Because they're hard to read.

This doesn't reflect what you did.

I was just there, you know, kind of, don't have much news and stories and so forth.

But that doesn't reflect what you did.

I think your question, the idea, it's not the idea that, for example, we are going to put on Christmas desire and say, well, what's the price of Christmas?

What's the price of Christmas?

Everyone knows Christmas is not part of our tradition.

Well, everyone knows Christmas is not part of our tradition.

What's the price of Christmas?

uh... uh... uh...

The thing is that we're not going to do that so long as we do it for a few years.

That's why we've got to do it for a long time.

It's 8 to 1.

We call it 8 to C, 8 to 1.

It's all in the reference.

And you can call it CPS, 13 to 1.

And then you see how hard it is not to let them do it again.

They're great.

They're doing it in that direction.

They're not going to let them do it again.

I don't think they're going to put a file symbol or a bunch of other ones.

They're all going to let me do it.

They're not going to let me do it.

That's what it's hard to do if they want to.

Thank you.

It's been two years since I was married.

Yeah, it was really obsessive.

Well, that's what I call it.

That call should be very cold.

Very cold.

I was the president.

That's an honor.

I mean, it would be better if you are a citizen.

That's what I hear.

I thought you had them on.

And then I tried to wear them on, and I said, well, how are you going to have them on?

And most days, I think that's what they've done.

I was going to go back and forth.

We're not going to do anything, right?

Yes, sir.

Unless he goes forward with the others, then to go the last week on our own, because the winners are us.

But I'd like to see what they're trying to do to get me committed.

And then put Aaron on right after, or back to back, or cut stuff out of all of us, and put him in the big format, and that'll level out for us.

I wouldn't be too hard on that.

I'm asking you to find out what the reason for the whole thing is.

We've talked to the class staff.

We've talked to some other networks, other commentators, from other newspapers, from various, from the wire service, and the rest.

And we'll do our best to make recommendations to the president, to the staff, to me, to Christine, to yours, and all of the others.

We'll see what we can work to do to get them to play ahead in time.

I want to support them with

Why not all three together?

Realize you can't do it the other way.

I want you closer.

They asked me about it.

I got it.

And I could do all that.

But it was important to me.

It wasn't very important.

But I was going to have to go for it.

I don't want to be screwed over.

In fact, we were there.

We had my money taken back.

That's what it was to do.

I don't know.

I don't know if it was every day.

Or if it was every day.

Okay.

All right.

Not one of the main cause, or the main effector of the Rite of Atmos power, was not the Rite of Atmos.

It was Hitler's choice.

It was the Russian choice.

Not one of the main causes, or the main effector of the Rite of Atmos power, was not the Rite of Atmos power.

It was Hitler's choice.

It was the Russian choice.

Not one of the main causes, or the main effector of the Rite of Atmos power, was not the Rite of Atmos power.

Not one of the main causes, or the main effector of the Rite of Atmos power.

Not one of

Well, I can still use the wrong word.

It is the moment of truth.

There is absolutely no question about it.

Oh, is there?

We're not going to stop here, are we?

We're ready to recall.

We're touching on it.

We're actually doing it.

All right?

We're not going to stop here.

I didn't answer your question.

All right?

You're not doing it.

Of course not.

We're going to buy it.

Buy it.

But I guess, I don't know if they asked me to say this, but I agree with some of the comments that have been studied in this room.

And if you have some comments, where do we put all of this information?

When does it all change?

The basis of everything.

I want you to correct me, all right?

and do what we can to make the country a better place today.

I am on the last meeting with the President of the United States.

Not one word could do it.

I have to do it.

I'm ready to do it.

Mr. President, I have a, I want, I will, I have, I want to make one point on this, on the, you know, from my perspective.

This was working at the time, and I noticed in the college, in the television,

This is not a question.

But make sure that you are aware of that one.

And from a standard, I think that's it.

Without questioning, I'm the right-wing.

I wasn't talking about that.

Without questioning.

And, you know, you have to have insurance.

You have to try to protect the rights of others.

Nixon & Ziegler on Watergate and Press Relations

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