Nixon & Haig on Vietnam War and Nguyen Van Thieu

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What is it?

I don't know.

What is it?

I don't know.

He had his first session and he hasn't reported on his second.

I'm not sure if he can report from him, but I don't want to judge him.

Well, what did your analysis say?

Well, I mean, that says how hard it can be.

He did because he can't see.

The way he achieved that posture that he wanted to, and he did the same treatment he did the second time.

Don't judge him, do you?

Is that correct?

presentation to the whole National Security Council, to include the investments from Paris that she brought in, disnegotiated.

Well, Mary was faced with a situation that was waiting for her to address.

Very, very skeptical question.

Now, Terry's now, in fact, he's probably finished it.

I'm trying to say.

He's going to be back today.

He and Bunker and she and himself, they were put back.

They were decided the second time.

He wasn't the first.

And I said that they were trying to help him.

He didn't say.

uh... uh... uh... uh...

He said the beach was successful and that he had, um, he put out a great deal as a guy.

While we were actually out there, what we were learning about the existence of this was that this was the deal, um, and nothing, we couldn't conceive of anything more fair or better than that.

I don't know.

I don't think anyone has to say that.

I think we're just going to do it.

We've got to do it.

Well, they had all the things I told them to do when I came down to the Office of Security.

The other day, one mentioned about a complaint on the Florida side.

And I, quite frankly, think that's all they could have done.

They would have died in the context of this crime.

And the infiltration, yeah, that's what he said.

That's right.

And the press is fighting it the other way, that we were trying to close the collision.

It's all right.

Well, next time, next time, when we don't come out on the door, we should try to close it.

That's all right.

Next time, if we change that way, that's great.

If we change it, we'll have to move against it.

All right.

I didn't expect it to be any different from where you might be sitting right now.

I don't see these people.

I don't know what they're concerned about.

No, they're going to be down there.

This day is over now.

9 o'clock, they're going to be down there.

So we're not going back.

We're going to have to leave in a few more days.

And we held up on certain actions we had planned to take, such as selling them to the lab.

This business can do it.

And we would instead reduce certain body levels and just not go through that at all.

He made a critical statement in the private sector.

Well, when is Abrams going to go back?

That's what I don't know.

Well, Abrams has got to go see him privately or something.

I don't know what sort of Abrams knows.

My point is, if you let him cross Henry, then maybe you've got to get another guy in the game.

So if he says, see you later, again, you know what I mean?

That's all I have to do.

That's a small part of the game.

You can see the 204 is active now, which is about over now.

It has to be over at 9 o'clock.

It's the end of the security council.

It's more active at the end of the week than the end of June.

I think it's going to be further.

So it remains to be seen whether we can pull it off or not.

It's just not making any predictions.

Probably certainly I'm sure it's been a very strong, uh, hard moment.

So it would be impossible to pull that off.

It would be impossible to put it down.

But it's, it's impressive.

Yeah.

It's now that's what we're going to do.

That's what we're going to do.

I think that's his concern right now because he knows they're in their forward most positions.

I'm sorry.

to a situation in which they have their provisions of the sign-on extended to the Air Force where they do have a ceasefire.

I'm looking at the Air Force every day, looking at the reports, which they've been told that 48 hours after the ceasefire, there are certain scenes that kill as many people as they can.

So I think that's what I saw.

They claim they control all the buyers who have signed up to do those things.

So I'm just going to wait for them to come back.

So they run out of their ability to do that.

Because there's a monofilament out of this entire state.

And I think that's why this is not going to work right now.

When they bought the course, you see this is where every captured diamond began to come from.

And as you begin the battle, it's implied that we build a center and follow that kind of stuff much more closely than we would be if we wanted to serve the battle.

What else are we going to do to that fellow if not hand him to you?

You know, everybody fall back.

We need to put pressure on them, which is damn well the deal is going in the north.

They're seizing one fire base after another, and they're getting a lot of new equipment in the north, because I think the enemy has just had it up there.

Yeah, and that's not territory.

It's worth seizing anything for their concentration.

So, I don't know.

It's a little weird.

Yeah.

So if you've got anything more, just bring it over.

I'll be here.

I'm just going to let people run in that direction.

Nixon & Haig on Vietnam War and Nguyen Van Thieu

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Also recorded on October 19, 1972

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