Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 382 › Conversation 382-009

Nixon & Ziegler on Professional Sports and National Football League

Saturday, December 16, 1972 · 3:25 PM–3:28 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 3 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.Conversation382-009 on Tape 382StartSaturday, December 16, 1972 at 3:25 PMEndSaturday, December 16, 1972 at 3:28 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 382-009 ↗

President Nixon and Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler held a brief, informal meeting that focused primarily on casual conversation rather than official government business. The dialogue centered on personal commentary regarding professional football and hockey broadcasts occurring that day. No policy decisions or administrative actions were initiated during this exchange.

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Oh, I'm in Syria.
I'm living in Syria.
What a great blocker he was.
And he said, when you came in there, the harder it raised up against you, it was like hitting you by a sledgehammer.
Yeah.
Yeah.
National Hockey League on NBC will start Friday night, December 29th, when the battle of division will begin at the Boston Roads.
Friday night, December 29th, National Hockey League on NBC.
16 yards.
Give it to Lawrence.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Thank you.
This would be something that Moore's got to 1,000 yards to beat.
We're going all the way to the front.
Here's one game today.
But the last game of the regular season, I don't think it's going to be because they have to be thinking of the playoff.
Timeout.
Two-minute warning given for this score.
Miami 16, Baltimore nothing.
All right.
I'll be right back.

On December 16, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:25 pm to 3:28 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 382-009 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 382-9

Date: December 16, 1972
Time: 3:25 pm - 3:28 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with Ronald L. Ziegler.

[See Conversation No. 34-99]
  • 034-099 3:25 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone from 3:25 pm to 3:28 pm.
  • 382-010 3:28 PM · 5 min — President Richard M. Nixon and John D. Ehrlichman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:28 pm and 3:45 pm.
  • 382-011 3:28 PM · 39 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:28 pm and 3:45 pm.
  • 382-012 3:28 PM · 29 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:28 pm and 3:45 pm.
  • 034-100 3:45 PM · 2 min — H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, White House operator, and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:45 pm and 4:27 pm.
  • 034-101 3:45 PM · 14 sec — H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:45 pm and 4:27 pm.
  • 034-102 3:45 PM · 25 sec — H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:45 pm and 4:27 pm.
  • 382-013 3:45 PM · 1 hr 35 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, White House operator, Ronald L. Ziegler, Manolo Sanchez, unknown person(s), Anne L. Armstrong, and Lawrence M. Higby met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:45 pm to 5:25 pm.

Conversation 382-009, December 16, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/382-009 (accessed October 5, 2026).