Nixon White House TapesTape 389 › Conversation 389-013

Nixon & Bull on Charles Colson and Henry Kissinger

Saturday, November 4, 1972 · 11:00 AM–11:01 AM ET · Old Executive Office Building ·1 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Bull, Stephen B.;  White House operatorConversation389-013 onTape 389StartSaturday, November 4, 1972 at 11:00 AMEndSaturday, November 4, 1972 at 11:01 AMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 389-013 ↗

President Nixon consulted with his aide Stephen B. Bull and the White House operator to coordinate administrative logistics and manage his daily schedule. The primary focus involved arranging telephone communications, specifically with Charles Colson via Air Force One, and scheduling a meeting with Henry Kissinger. This interaction served to finalize the President's immediate operational agenda and facilitate priority executive outreach.

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I think it's kind of .
I am saying, he knows what he's doing.
He knows what he's doing.

On November 4, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 11:00 am and 11:01 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 389-013 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 389-13

Date: November 4, 1972
Time: Unknown between 11:00 am - 11:01 am
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

       The President’s schedule
            -Telephone calls
                  -Colson
                         -Air Force One

The President talked with the White House operator at 11:00 am.

[Conversation No. 389-13A]

[See Conversation No. 33-30]

       The President’s schedule
            -Henry A. Kissinger’s request for a meeting
                  -The President’s telephone calls
                  -Meeting with Colson

Bull left at an unknown time before 11:01 am.
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                         (rev. Feb.-08)
  • 033-030 11:00 AM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 11:00 am.
  • 033-031 11:00 AM · 6 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 11:00 am and 11:01 am.
  • 389-014 11:00 AM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 11:00 am and 11:01 am.
  • 389-015 11:00 AM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 11:00 am and 11:01 am.
  • 389-016 11:00 AM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 11:00 am and 11:01 am.
  • 033-032 11:01 AM · 14 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone from 11:01 am to 11:02 am.
  • 389-017 11:01 AM · 18 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 11:01 am to 11:02 am.
  • 389-018 11:02 AM · 26 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Charles W. Colson, Ronald L. Ziegler, Henry Hibbard, and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 11:02 am and 11:40 am.

Conversation 389-013, November 4, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/389-013 (accessed September 18, 2026).