Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 394 › Conversation 394-014

Nixon & Ziegler on Public relations and Staff logistics

Monday, January 8, 1973 · 2:56 PM–3:00 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 4 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.Conversation394-014 on Tape 394StartMonday, January 8, 1973 at 2:56 PMEndMonday, January 8, 1973 at 3:00 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 394-014 ↗

President Nixon and Press Secretary Ronald Ziegler briefly consult regarding the public release of a photograph and the necessity of coordinating staff logistics between the Executive Office Building and the White House. The pair confirms their intent to proceed with disseminating information regarding a specific pedestal, while dismissing rumors or inaccurate reports as untrue. The discussion concludes with the President emphasizing the need for Executive Office of the President staff to relocate their workspace to the immediate vicinity for better operational efficiency.

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So, Ron, I wonder if we ought to bother with the picture of what I was just thinking of earlier.
Yeah, I think so.
I think so.
I think so.
I think so.
I think so.
Yeah, they can do what they want.
All right.
Now, is that right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
We're going to go ahead and tell them about the pedestal there.
No, that's right.
That's right.
That's right.
That's right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, I didn't mind.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, I don't think so.
No, none of that is true.
No, no, no.
Now, what I would say to suggest is that the EOP has to come over here and work.
uh, uh, uh, uh,
Yeah, that's what I remember.
Okay.

On January 8, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:56 pm to 3:00 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 394-014 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 394-14

Date: January 8, 1973
Time: 2:56 pm - 3:00 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with Ronald L. Ziegler.

[See Conversation No. 35-155]
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
  • 035-155 2:56 PM · 4 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone from 2:56 pm to 3:00 pm.
  • 035-098 3:00 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:00 pm and 3:04 pm.
  • 394-015 3:00 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:00 pm and 3:04 pm.
  • 035-099 3:04 PM · 7 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone from 3:04 pm to 3:11 pm.
  • 394-016 3:04 PM · 7 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:04 pm to 3:11 pm.
  • 394-017 3:11 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:11 pm and 3:26 pm.
  • 394-018 3:26 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:26 pm to 3:28 pm.
  • 394-019 3:29 PM · 34 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Helen A. Thomas, Frances Lewine, Ronald L. Ziegler, Manolo Sanchez, and Oliver F. ("Ollie") Atkins met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:29 pm to 4:04 pm.

Conversation 394-014, January 8, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/394-014 (accessed October 11, 2026).