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Nixon & Bull on seating arrangements and public events

Friday, January 19, 1973 · 6:15 PM–6:40 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 1 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation398-013 on Tape 398StartFriday, January 19, 1973 at 6:15 PMEndFriday, January 19, 1973 at 6:40 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 398-013 ↗

President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull discussed logistical arrangements for an upcoming public event, specifically focusing on seating assignments and the positioning of a musical band. The President emphasized the importance of ensuring that a group of six individuals would be seated together to maintain the desired visual appearance for photographs. Bull confirmed the arrangements and the travel plans for the musical ensemble to accompany them to multiple locations.

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yeah on this uh seating thing i would consider of course it's very fairly one theater they do have us uh
Fine.
But that's what we should do.
The six of us should be in a... See, that's the picture.
See, there's a lot of the six together in that place right there.
All right, fine.
Now, uh, why is this band up there?
Do they grant beaches in each place?
I see.
They go with each other.
They go with us each place.
Thank you.
Good to see you.

On January 19, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 6:15 pm and 6:40 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 398-013 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 398-13

Date: January 19, 1973
Time: Unknown between 6:15 pm and 6:40 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with Stephen B. Bull.

[See Conversation No. 36-9]
  • 398-009 5:24 PM · 32 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Raymond K. Price, Jr. met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 5:24 pm to 5:55 pm.
  • 398-010 5:56 PM · 20 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Charles G. ("Bebe") Rebozo, Stephen B. Bull, and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:56 pm and 6:40 pm.
  • 036-008 6:15 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 6:15 pm and 6:40 pm.
  • 036-009 6:15 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 6:15 pm and 6:40 pm.
  • 398-011 6:15 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 6:15 pm and 6:40 pm.
  • 398-012 6:15 PM · 18 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 6:15 pm and 6:40 pm.
  • 398-014 6:15 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Charles G. ("Bebe") Rebozo, and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 6:15 pm and 6:40 pm.
  • 398-015 6:15 PM · 12 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles G. ("Bebe") Rebozo met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 6:15 pm and 6:40 pm.

Conversation 398-013, January 19, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/398-013 (accessed October 11, 2026).