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Nixon & Kennedy on National Security Council and White House Personnel

Thursday, January 11, 1973 · 2:17 PM–2:18 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 16 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Kennedy, Richard T. (Col.)Conversation401-025 on Tape 401StartThursday, January 11, 1973 at 2:17 PMEndThursday, January 11, 1973 at 2:18 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 401-025 ↗

President Nixon held a brief meeting with Colonel Richard T. Kennedy to discuss matters concerning the National Security Council staff. The participants coordinated their schedules, as evidenced by the reference to a subsequent conversation. No substantive policy decisions were finalized during this extremely short interaction.

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On January 11, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Col. Richard T. Kennedy met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:17 pm to 2:18 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 401-025 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 401-25

Date: January 11, 1973
Time: 2:17 pm - 2:18 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with Col. Richard T. Kennedy.
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                                          Conversation No. 401-25 (cont’d)

[See Conversation No. 35-136]
  • 035-134 2:11 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Tricia Nixon Cox, and Edward R. F. Cox talked on the telephone from 2:11 pm to 2:12 pm.
  • 401-022 2:11 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Tricia Nixon Cox met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:11 pm to 2:12 pm.
  • 035-135 2:12 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 2:12 pm and 2:17 pm.
  • 401-023 2:12 PM · 18 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:12 pm and 2:17 pm.
  • 401-024 2:12 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:12 pm and 2:17 pm.
  • 035-136 2:17 PM · 18 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Col. Richard T. Kennedy talked on the telephone from 2:17 pm to 2:18 pm.
  • 401-026 2:30 PM · 48 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Col. Richard T. Kennedy, and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:30 pm to 3:15 pm.
  • 035-137 3:15 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:15 pm and 3:19 pm.

Conversation 401-025, January 11, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/401-025 (accessed October 1, 2026).