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Nixon & Brennan on Civilian casualties and Military operations

Tuesday, January 30, 1973 · 6:56 PM–6:57 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 45 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Brennan, Peter J.Conversation406-028 on Tape 406StartTuesday, January 30, 1973 at 6:56 PMEndTuesday, January 30, 1973 at 6:57 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 406-028 ↗

President Nixon requested an urgent assessment concerning civilian casualties and infrastructure destruction resulting from recent military operations. He sought specific data on the number of non-combatant deaths and associated collateral damage to inform his ongoing briefings. This brief exchange prioritized the compilation of accurate casualty figures for administrative review.

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Get me an estimate of the number of civilians in the times that are destroyed.
The number of civilians assassinated, killed, et cetera, et cetera.
What I should add is that there are so many civilians that were delivered to me.
Okay, fine.

On January 30, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Peter J. Brennan met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 6:56 pm to 6:57 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 406-028 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 406-28

Date: January 30, 1973
Time: 6:56 pm - 6:57 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with the Patrick J. Buchanan.

[See Conversation No. 36-122]
  • 036-121 6:51 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 6:51 pm and 6:56 pm.
  • 036-122 6:56 PM · 46 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Peter J. Brennan talked on the telephone from 6:56 pm to 6:57 pm.
  • 036-123 6:57 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 6:57 pm and 7:39 pm.
  • 406-029 6:57 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 6:57 pm and 7:39 pm.
  • 406-030 6:57 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 6:57 pm and 7:39 pm.
  • 406-031 6:57 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 6:57 pm and 7:39 pm.
  • 406-032 6:57 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 6:57 pm and 7:39 pm.
  • 406-033 6:57 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 6:57 pm and 7:39 pm.

Conversation 406-028, January 30, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/406-028 (accessed October 6, 2026).