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Nixon & Kissinger on Cambodia and South Vietnam

Tuesday, March 27, 1973 · 5:46 PM–5:56 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 13 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Kissinger, Henry A.Conversation424-006 on Tape 424StartTuesday, March 27, 1973 at 5:46 PMEndTuesday, March 27, 1973 at 5:56 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 424-006 ↗

President Nixon and Henry Kissinger met to coordinate media strategy and public messaging regarding ongoing military operations in Cambodia and South Vietnam. They discussed managing the press, specifically focusing on how Press Secretary Ron Ziegler should handle challenging inquiries during briefings to maintain a firm, offensive posture. Despite internal concerns over mounting political pressure, both men agreed on the necessity of staying disciplined and unified in their public defense of administration policy.

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I agree.
I was talking to Ron.
He said he had a pretty tough line of questions on voting on the vote we have today in his press conference.
Do you know the thing I raised with you this morning?
Yeah.
And the point is, I'm not thinking about what line you should take tomorrow.
He did.
Oh yeah, he handled it very well.
That's exactly what he said.
He said, well, how long .
It's the one white, of course, which I cannot cover in my remarks.
But I'm not even going to refer to it.
I'm just going to refer to the autonomy.
But on the Cambodian thing, I'm sure people have drawn all kinds of question marks and issues with the additional guidance.
But it's here to just stick right in front of them.
I know.
South Vietnam, right?
I agree.
I'm speaking out.
Any of us.
Any of us.
That's right.
Don't look up.
Don't look up.
That's right.
And we just have to say, of course, of course, we're in.
We have an operation.
Of course, we're in.
So, I don't know.
We haven't got much of a, much of a standard of something.
It isn't pretty.
I'm sorry.
What was I about to say?
Singularity.
Yeah, we would just have to hang in there and see what they do.
That would probably be the next one.
I know, but yeah, but it may not be the final one.
It's quite the motivation to get through the hole.
What you fought for, is what you're here for.
You're here for the future of your house.
And you're here as part of the whole of the great, part of this inspire.
Don't worry.
They'll be backing for it.
We'll keep on the offensive.
We've got to keep right on the offensive.
I agree.
I agree.
Unfortunately, well, the Russian things come fairly soon, too.
Well, I don't think there's anything serious.
But what do you send us?
I just, I just borrowed from the office.
In a sense, really, you know, frankly, from our domestic situation, it's only better.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Why don't you come back on that?
I prefer, frankly, to get ready to act today.
Well, anyway, feel free to do longer than that, if they'd like that.
All right.
And at any time, you'll go around just to the stage, if you like, and you'll stand right firm on that capo.
Well, look, when have we not had something like this?
There's always something to do.
There's a clip, there's a...
They want to jeopardize things for the whole area.
Well, maybe that's worse for the children than it is for some of the workers, right?
Well, just stand right in front of them.
But I just wanted you to know that this is not, it's not, it's not just crazy what I was doing.
It's just, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not.
And you know, don't get concerned about the pressure on it.
The time we get through, at the end of the week, we'll turn it around again.
Now, this is not necessarily .
You can talk to Ron in the morning.
We'll be sure to see you on the same way.

On March 27, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 5:46 pm to 5:56 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 424-006 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 424-6
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                                           Conversation No. 424-32 (cont’d)

Date: March 27, 1973
Time: 5:46 pm - 5:56 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with Henry A. Kissinger.

[See Conversation No. 44-34]
  • 044-033 5:34 PM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 5:34 pm.
  • 424-004 5:34 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at 5:34 pm.
  • 424-005 5:34 PM · 7 min — President Richard M. Nixon met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:34 pm and 5:46 pm.
  • 044-034 5:46 PM · 11 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 5:46 pm and 5:56 pm.
  • 424-007 5:56 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:56 pm and 6:03 pm.
  • 424-008 5:56 PM · 4 min — President Richard M. Nixon met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:56 pm and 6:03 pm.
  • 044-035 6:03 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and John D. Ehrlichman talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 6:03 pm and 6:05 pm.
  • 424-009 6:03 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon, John D. Ehrlichman, and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 6:03 pm to 6:05 pm.

Conversation 424-006, March 27, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/424-006 (accessed October 2, 2026).