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Hi, John.

Hello.

You had a good day?

Yeah, I spent most of the day trying to put together a statement, I think, that you could come out.

Apparently some other people have done the work.

I haven't worked in an event.

We're all kind of driving at the same point.

I'm working on a draft that you called.

I think I was calling Dick more, and I was thinking more about some of the others, but, and what we mean by that, rather than, it's got a strong thrust, it puts you, what time, excuse me, it might have been the same route, but this is a tough question to answer.

I'd really like you guys to

I have one paragraph in here where it says what you're doing as a result of what's come to your attention.

And one of the points is that we advise all members of the White House staff to be called before the grand jury effective immediately.

They'll be on administrative leave until such time as the grand jury can fix its work.

Here's the paragraph.

This connection.

I have not even spared.

My closest advisor.

I do that.

Yes.

Anybody told?

Right.

I don't like the

The bullet arms that I've seen, all of them are present.

The other thing, the garments fly from the left.

No, I haven't.

Well, I'd like to know.

No, I haven't.

I haven't seen the design right now.

But the problem with that is that I just want to hear it.

Here's the thing.

Peterson says it's going to be on your letter.

He thinks it's probably better.

It's better that you get the letter, get a letter, and get a receipt.

I said, well, what do you think about that?

I said, well, I don't want to do any of that.

He feels that they, that they want to be clear that he is not recommended.

So that's the question.

However, of the

Let me see what you had in mind.

I have a letter.

I thought this was fair.

Fair to everybody.

I think that there is a problem

I don't want to go if they say there's a problem for you of this scapegoat.

That's right.

You know, everybody who has appeared before the grantor, this does not do too guilty to anybody.

Put it this way, I'd rather.

Yes.

I can say that you are responsible.

We already have said that in this case.

The only man you're dealing with is Peterson.

The only role I have is to help fill in any information I can.

I've got to deal with the public relations and the problems.

You have to say that to me, John, to say to President Clark.

I don't want to go over that.

I don't want to talk to anybody else, except on the current issue.

But I can't do any other investigative work.

Well, that's why I'm not coming to tell you that.

I made that up three weeks ago.

I didn't realize March 21st would be the day that we get back to the state.

We're going to assess the overall problem for the White House.

We're still tackling those problems.

Yes, yes, yes.

We're going to have a problem for us at home.

What I really need is one thing.

He said, no, he came over the hole and then after a few minutes he told me about the plan.

Right.

So, his wife did actually call him and did know.

No, I disagree with that.

I didn't know, but I have an impression.

If that was the case, you see, John, I would have told you something different.

No, I've always thought of it exactly that way because

Well, I know.

What about this?

I think what happened?

Yeah.

I told him I was not going to have any word with any or anybody over there on this.

And I did.

Yeah.

And I didn't have to talk to him.

But he said, you had told me, you know, we went through a little bit.

But I don't think Bob helped me.

He did not have knowledge.

Now, the question is, the other thing is, I cannot even describe.

I couldn't describe 20 minutes after the meeting.

what Lydia was presenting, it was the most spectacular sales pitch you've ever seen in codes and charts.

It was right out of James Bond operating.

Well, that's what I'm told now.

Later, after the fact, they called in.

I don't remember.

I told Bob, they're talking about budget, they're talking about kidnapping, they're talking about mugging squads, taking people down, pretending to go south of the border, which is always a real thought.

So he said, absolutely, you know,

That's correct.

I don't know.

But I thought it was

I don't know.

I wish you would tell.

He said.

So that's And Bob and I have done all that.

After the fact, if you recall, it was about this crazy scheme that's being put up.

We want to go with that.

It's better.

I'll work on a statement.

I think they may want to have something.

It wasn't much to protect the blood.

They could have taken it.

They're going to go to something else.

You know, I'm trying to think of how to get people to talk to me.

I'm sorry, I don't know how to do that.

It's hard to think of it.

I try to get people to talk to me.

I'm trying to get people to talk to me.

I try to get people to talk to me.

We discussed that in the other case.

That's what Paul said.

I can't even afford to do this.

I know a lawyer who would know a lawyer who would help us.

I don't agree with any of these guys.

I don't agree with most local courts.

You know what I mean?

Well, I don't think that, I can't foresee what the point is today.

You see, I think my own, whatever it is, I don't know.

My question is, what do you call it?

I don't know.

Oh, you're done.

I'm just walking.

How about that?

There's a lot of stuff.

Yeah.

We didn't shut down without giving out enough and starting a stream going that we didn't want because it was killing us.

We, unfortunately, had a social problem with this mind-boggling picture, if you think about it.

We didn't order it at all.

That's right.

You know, we failed him out.

And that's why we had a problem.

I think he said, oh, why not?

And that was probably what Mitchell was making, heavy comments about, you know,

So the White House will have a bigger problem than you will.

Like whatever they have done over here with the White House during the election also.

Yeah.

And I feel there's really not going to be a better cloud in Ellsberg's office.

And really, I've said it, and I've been very good at it.

You're making a lot of progress.

It's just better.

I mean, it's only what shows.

It's in the open.

Okay.

They pull it out in five inches and it'll break it down and it'll just start to make noise.

Yeah.

I've been, uh, right on top of the button around here before I got into CW for, uh, many, many months, uh, and they're not working anymore, so it's my fault because, in fact, that's what you get.

It's fine.

It's fine if it hurts.

Okay.

That's a good question.

That's the biggest part of that question.

I think, first of all, there is a potential kind of situation right now, a very difficult group context that they're aware of.

Is that thereby

to make it necessary for you to make a judgment to those people who need the staff to make it necessary for me to relieve them of any of these cases that's what I'm trying to tell them to make it necessary for me to get all of you turned down which I have done I don't have to discuss it again but whether you just say let's get this all out of hands I don't know that's another question we've had one that puts you in a position of being

to be judged prior to the facts or before all the facts are in them.

So that's really my problem.

So this fellow said that.

This fellow said that.

That's the way it is.

Maybe that's the way it is.

I'll be doing it publicly.

I have certain information about allegations that have been made about this more publicly.

Some have not become public yet.

But I am not in a position where I can make any adjustments.

That is all the facts I have yet.

But you already did a job of doing that.

You're not going to pay for it.

You're going to do it.

Thank you.