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Nixon & Ziegler on Stuart Hall and Public relations

Wednesday, May 2, 1973 · 2:28 PM–2:29 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 14 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.Conversation432-021 on Tape 432StartWednesday, May 2, 1973 at 2:28 PMEndWednesday, May 2, 1973 at 2:29 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 432-021 ↗

President Nixon and Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler engaged in an extremely brief, informal exchange following a meeting regarding the Stuart Hall matter. The discussion centered on confirming Ziegler's ability to handle the specific task or public statement related to Hall. No formal policy decisions or substantive strategic actions were recorded during this one-minute interaction.

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So, can you do your Stuart Hall song?
Yeah, fine.
Fine, well, take your time.

On May 2, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:28 pm and 2:29 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 432-021 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 432-21

Date: May 2, 1973
Time: 2:28 pm - 2:29 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with Ronald L. Ziegler.
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                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                                              Conversation No. 432-21 (cont’d)

[See Conversation No. 45-148]
  • 045-146 2:22 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone from 2:22 pm to 2:24 pm.
  • 432-019 2:22 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:22 pm and 2:24 pm.
  • 045-147 2:24 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 2:24 pm and 2:28 pm.
  • 432-020 2:24 PM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:24 pm and 2:28 pm.
  • 045-148 2:28 PM · 19 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone from 2:28 pm to 2:29 pm.
  • 432-022 2:38 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:38 pm and 2:41 pm.
  • 909-027 2:46 PM · 52 min — President Richard M. Nixon, John D. Ehrlichman, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 2:46 pm and 3:21 pm.
  • 909-031 2:46 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and George P. Shultz met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 2:46 pm and 3:21 pm.

Conversation 432-021, May 2, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/432-021 (accessed October 5, 2026).