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Nixon, Hoopes & Bull on White House tapes and Security procedures

Tuesday, June 5, 1973 · 2:40 PM–2:44 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 4 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.; Hoopes, David C.Conversation441-017 on Tape 441StartTuesday, June 5, 1973 at 2:40 PMEndTuesday, June 5, 1973 at 2:44 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 441-017 ↗

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President Nixon met with Stephen B. Bull and David C. Hoopes to coordinate his upcoming schedule, including a trip to Florida for a commencement address and various cabinet and congressional meetings. The participants discussed speech preparation and the logistical management of his time. Additionally, Nixon addressed the security and custody of White House tapes, confirming that recordings were being placed under lock and key to restrict access.

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So let me ask you,

What's the situation on ?

I don't have .

Essentially, it's tomorrow .

Tomorrow, they have something at 5 o'clock.

This is, sorry to do this, should have been brought on stapler with me, but that's the fourth.

Okay, and then, and leaders meeting too.

What time are they?

See, you're not gonna have the leaders at 8.30, you're gonna have to leave before 8.30.

Yes, because they have to go to the meeting.

You might have a cat with a cat.

Try to go away.

that was reached to a technological high school?

No, sir.

It's a technologically oriented college, a bachelor and a graduate college, which is specific to the city techniques, architecture, as opposed to my high school.

I don't know what the student plan is.

And we have nothing prior to that.

What time is the student meeting?

That is what it's supposed to be.

Your radio speaker would be trying to not be in school.

I'm certain that would be approximately 11 o'clock.

Yes, sir.

Leave the Thursday night.

We get the cabinet leaders over.

We would have 30 up and then 8 to 3 working the speech room.

Don't get frozen on that part.

You might want to ship that Confederacy because we're going to be terribly busy.

With regard to the pigs that we have, all of those now are in their custody under put-back under lock and key and safe.

They have to put that under lock and key, sir.

Right.

And that's what takes so long.

You don't tame them.

And nobody is rude.

And I just want to say, you know, actually, I've never asked you that in your name.

I'm just taming myself.

You got your business.

Please go about it.

All right.

NARA Description

On June 5, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, and David C. Hoopes met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:40 pm to 2:44 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 441-017 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 441-17

Date: June 5, 1973
Time: 2:40 pm - 2:44 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

     Staplers [?]

     Folder
          -Report [?]
          -Tab
               -Missing section

     President’s forthcoming speech [?]
                                              -14-

                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                                              Conversation No. 441-17 (cont’d)

      President’s schedule
            -Cabinet meeting
            -Melvin R. Laird
            -Clarence M. Kelly
                  -Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI] candidate
            -Republican policy committee
            -Free time
                  -Laird [?]

David C. Hoopes entered at 2:41 pm.

      Stapler

Hoopes left at 2:42 pm.

      President’s schedule
            -Cabinet meeting
            -Republican Congressional leadership
            -Cabinet meeting
            -Trip to Florida
                  -Florida Technical University
                        -Commencement address
                        -Baccalaureate program
                        -Architecture
            -Radio speech
            -Commencement address
                  -Timing
            -Cabinet
            -Congressional leaders
            -Speech editing

      White House tapes
           -Custody
                -Security
           -Access
                -Restrictions
                -Bull’s access

Bull left at 2:44 pm.
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                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 441-017, June 5, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/441-017 (accessed October 1, 2026).