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Nixon & Ziegler on White House administration and Press relations

Thursday, June 21, 1973 · 5:18 PM–5:20 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 3 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.Conversation447-036 on Tape 447StartThursday, June 21, 1973 at 5:18 PMEndThursday, June 21, 1973 at 5:20 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 447-036 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon and Press Secretary Ronald Ziegler coordinate logistics for a signing ceremony scheduled for the following day. They discuss the potential need for official remarks, ultimately deciding against them to maintain control over the event's messaging. Nixon also outlines plans to organize a seating line for participants while minimizing press interaction.

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Hello.
Out of the breathing door.
Okay.
Good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, they, uh, I'm sure, you know, they, uh, they want remarks.
We don't, but we don't want remarks for a reason.
We don't want remarks.
But, uh, we can do the same.
But tomorrow, after we sign it, I'm going to set up a little seating line.
I'm going to cut it down a little bit so everybody can do it.
All right.
Don't worry about me, because I don't have any reason.
So I don't have nothing.
Uh-huh.
Good.
What's that?
What's important to say?
Uh, about me?
Well, I'm not going to say that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, what I meant is that we've already agreed to.
Yeah.
Yeah, we'll be able to ice and load them.
Well, at least we don't have to take any water game questions.
They shouldn't.
He's working hard.
He is.

NARA Description

On June 21, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 5:18 pm to 5:20 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 447-036 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 447-36

Date: June 21, 1973
Time: 5:18 pm - 5:20 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with Ronald Ziegler.

[See Conversation No. 41-28]

Also recorded on June 21, 1973

  • 041-027 4:12 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:12 pm and 5:18 pm.
  • 041-028 5:18 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone from 5:18 pm to 5:20 pm.
  • 041-029 5:20 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 5:20 pm and 5:21 pm.
  • 447-037 5:20 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:20 pm and 5:21 pm.
  • 041-030 5:21 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and J. Fred Buzhardt, Jr. talked on the telephone from 5:21 pm to 5:22 pm.
  • 447-038 5:21 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and J. Fred Buzhardt, Jr. met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 5:21 pm to 5:22 pm.
  • 447-039 5:22 PM · 16 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:22 pm and 7:05 pm.
  • 447-040 5:22 PM · 1 hr 41 min — President Richard M. Nixon and J. Fred Buzhardt, Jr. met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:22 pm and 7:05 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 447-036, June 21, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/447-036 (accessed October 10, 2026).