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Nixon & Ziegler on Political philosophy and Secrecy

Friday, June 22, 1973 · 1:45 PM–1:47 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 2 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.Conversation448-003 on Tape 448StartFriday, June 22, 1973 at 1:45 PMEndFriday, June 22, 1973 at 1:47 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 448-003 ↗

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President Richard Nixon and Press Secretary Ronald Ziegler engage in a brief, abstract exchange regarding the nature of secrecy, political commitments, and the historical motivations behind treaties and conflict. The conversation centers on philosophical reflections about the necessity of maintaining shared visions and promises amidst political instability. No specific policy actions or administrative decisions result from this dialogue.

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They have to, they have to prepare that plate.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
And also, the fact is it isn't a dream.
The will of the parties to keep this mission and the dreams to keep it a secret.
And, quite clearly, the depression is next to the will to keep the dream.
Yes, the will of the parties to keep it, but what is more important, perhaps, is the word we all sign.
Amen.
That's the will to keep the dream.
That's the will to keep the dream.
And, therefore, every war starts a great treaty.
That's the case
Okay.

NARA Description

On June 22, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 1:45 pm to 1:47 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 448-003 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 448-3

Date: June 22, 1973
Time: 1:45 pm - 1:47 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with Ronald L. Ziegler

[See Conversation No. 41-41]
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Cite this conversation

Conversation 448-003, June 22, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/448-003 (accessed October 10, 2026).