Nixon White House TapesTape 472 › Conversation 472-005

Nixon & Bull on Oval Office procedures and Staff relations

Tuesday, March 23, 1971 · 10:16 AM ET · Oval Office ·18 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Bull, Stephen B.Conversation472-005 onTape 472 (tape position 00:27:25–00:27:42)StartTuesday, March 23, 1971 at 10:16 AMEndTuesday, March 23, 1971 at 10:16 AMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 472-005 ↗

President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull engaged in a brief, informal exchange immediately following Bull's arrival in the Oval Office. The conversation consisted of casual banter rather than substantive policy discussions or administrative business. No formal actions or decisions were recorded during this brief encounter.

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On March 23, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at 10:16 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 472-005 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 472-5

Date: March 23, 1971
Time: 10:16 am
Location: Oval Office

[A transcript of the following portion of the conversation was initially prepared for the
Watergate Special Prosecution Force [WSPF] and can be found in Record Group [RG] 460. The
Nixon Presidential Materials Staff has reveiwed the transcript and has made changes as
necessary. This transcript has been reviewed under the provisions of the Presidential Recordings
and Materials Preservation Act of 1974 [PRMPA]. The National Archives does not guarantee its
accuracy.]

[End of transcript]

Bull left at 10:16 am
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Conversation 472-005, March 23, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/472-005 (accessed September 18, 2026).