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Conversation 478-010

TapeTape 478StartTuesday, April 13, 1971 at 12:34 PMEndTuesday, April 13, 1971 at 12:40 PMTape start time03:04:28Tape end time03:10:36ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Bull, Stephen B.;  DeMarco, Frank, Jr.;  DeMarco, JohnRecording deviceOval Office
AI Summary

President Nixon met with Stephen B. Bull and the DeMarco brothers, Frank and John, for an informal social visit in the Oval Office. The participants engaged in light conversation, exchanged gifts, and posed for photographs. The discussion touched briefly on sports, specifically commending baseball player Carl Yastrzemski for his advocacy work in anti-drug campaigns for high school students.

Social visitGift exchangeCarl YastrzemskiDrug awarenessBaseball
AudioNARA Description

On April 13, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, Frank DeMarco, Jr., and John DeMarco met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:34 pm to 12:40 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 478-010 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 478-10

Date: April 13, 1971
Time: 12:34 pm - 12:40 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull

     Schedule

Frank DeMarco, Jr. and John DeMarco entered at 12:34 pm; the White House photographer was
present at the beginning of the meeting

     Greetings

     F. DeMarco

Bull left at 12:34 pm

           -Children
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                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 9/08)




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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 1m 9s ]

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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    Photograph

    Presentation of gifts
         -Brothers/sister
         -Mother
         -Golf ball
         -Cuff links
         -Paper weight

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 14s ]

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2

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    Carl M. Yastrzemski
         -Speeches to high schools regarding drugs
         -Baseball

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 43s ]

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
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                                       Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. 9/08)



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Bull entered at an unknown after 12:34 pm

     Rose Garden
          -F. DeMarco

The DeMarcos and Bull left at 12:40 pm                                Conv. No. 478-10 (cont.)
Transcript (AI-Generated)

This transcript was generated automatically by AI and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite this transcript as authoritative. Consult the Finding Aid above for verified information.

Hi Frank, how are you?
John, how are you?
Oh, John, how are you?
Yeah.
How many of you are children of brothers and sisters?
So I'll take a picture of how you like it.
Three of these?
All right, sure.
Well, first I'll take them on a frame, and then you'll want to try it.
All right.
All right.
Now that's for you, and now we have three of these.
All right.
Good, good, good.
Now let's maybe a couple.
We'll be pressing.
Tide pods.
You have two of those?
I do.
One's a three-year-old.
A three-year-old?
Well, all right, we'll go with that.
When he gets older, he'll get in his tide pods.
And that's it.
There's three tide pods.
One for you, one for the other two.
And for your sister.
And for your mother.
And for your brother.
Frank, do you want a golf ball?
What would you like?
You've got a tag ball, sir.
You've got comics?
We've got comics.
That's all you've got.
Oh, wait, you should have a cable tape, too.
That's right.
Now, y'all, hold it up.
I'm next to you.
He's a great guy.
Well, isn't he a good kid?
Oh, yes.
He's a great football man.
Wonderful guy.
He's a fine man.
He's a fine man.
He's been making speeches to high schools about drugs.
Getting the kids off of it and stuff.
That's right.
You know, particularly from a football they admire.
You know, kids' strengths.
You follow baseball.
He's really, really, really, probably the best natural batter in the game.
Wow.
Good luck to you, sir.
Thank you.
Bye.
Goodbye.
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