On June 9, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Anthony T. ("Tony") Rossi, Acheille Mongelli, White House operator, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon, and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:30 pm to 1:05 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 515-004 of the White House Tapes.
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Well, I thought we'd better look at a few things, Spock.
That's right, we'll get it out.
No problems.
We're doing much better, I'll say that.
Oh, yes.
I think so.
Yes, yes it is.
We did something different this time.
We worked some seasons because there's a shortage of bushes because of the nests.
Have you heard about the nests that's taking over our industry, the double nests?
Oh, I don't know what you mean.
So they're taking over.
They're the nuts.
They're the nuts, yeah.
So I brought these, I got these in a hurry.
Watches, weren't those maybe?
Yeah, you can see more of them.
Rather than cut them apart, you know, just watches, I brought the whole thing.
Yeah.
Well, I need you to balance this up with two bags.
I didn't want to go ahead and do something you already said and I couldn't.
I said, I left some of the books out there.
I said for you, I don't know.
No, but I was going to bring something over here from the other room.
Some seats in the building.
You haven't heard of this?
I made it into the house.
It's supposed to be right here.
You didn't want lightweight fabrics.
Well, I guess more light than when I say light.
I don't want anything heavy.
Right.
Because I don't want anything heavy.
Sort of medium to light, basically.
Not very light.
Medium to light.
Medium to light.
Now, this is very true.
It's light.
It's light.
It was dark and medium blue, dark and medium gray.
Dark and medium blue, dark and medium gray.
That's how it was up here.
And it was a little plastic.
You have some fabric somewhere here.
Yeah.
Keep your hands in one of your drawers.
I saw those.
Yeah.
Uh-huh.
Well, yeah.
Can I see it?
Uh-huh.
I don't want to see it.
This is going to look like a whole picture.
Hello?
Oh, Pat, I'm, uh, Mr., uh, the, the, uh, the people from here.
Uh, I'm just looking over a couple of laws.
Do you have an interview?
You don't have to.
Okay.
All right.
Thank you very much.
Bye.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's right.
I'll keep that.
Well now, what is your view of some light and medium grades?
That's a beautiful grade.
This is a beautiful grade.
This is a beautiful grade.
This is a beautiful grade.
This is a beautiful grade.
This is a beautiful grade.
This is a beautiful grade.
I think I like this one a little better than the one with the...
I want you to look at the color.
I want you to color it.
Kind of the yellow...
This is what I want to do.
I think this is the go-ahead.
I think this is water.
I can give it a run on that.
Let's get started.
Oh, here we are.
Let me see about that gray one more time.
One more gray?
Well, what percentage would you like?
I don't know.
I don't think so.
How does that compare with the other one?
No, that's pretty much it.
It's close.
Now, this is a gray where the stripe is too pronounced.
Maybe that is a little better.
Yeah.
This is nice.
I like this.
I think this fits me more.
This fits me more.
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Those are all the time.
Did you look at these at all?
These are the ones I wanted to look at.
They're the finest horses made in the world.
They're smaller.
Let me just take a look at the glasses.
These are good.
They are excellent metal.
I'm sure of it.
Do you think that's nice?
Yes.
And this one?
Yes.
That's too dark.
No.
No, I don't think so.
No.
What do you think?
Any of these?
I don't know.
I think the grades we got are great.
I think I've seen a half of us.
Yeah.
But how do these two strike?
How does this one strike?
I like it.
Very much so.
It's got a lot of color.
Would that be the same?
That's the same one?
Yeah.
I'm sure it's the same.
It looks very, very close.
Yeah, it does look close.
No.
No.
No, there's a little bit.
This has the blue.
It's very nice.
It really is.
How about this one?
I've got these two because that's what I'm trying to do.
All right, let's have this one, and this one, and this one.
As far as any of these others, if you don't like these others, you can have this one.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Is that all, Peter?
No.
No.
I'm going to have a smile.
Before we leave, did we pick one of these yet?
Why don't we pick one of them?
We can't pick this one yet.
I think this is nice.
Don't you like this?
Yes, this is a very good fabric also.
This is going to make people wear it.
Right.
I think we could do it.
They are similar, but on the other hand,
It's in better quality, yes.
Yeah, all right.
Well, they're so darn similar.
Yes, no, this is fine.
This one looks good.
Yes, sir.
I don't think so.
I think no.
You don't have one color TV.
This one.
Here's another little... Let's just look at this one.
This one is nice as well.
It's a little blue.
I don't know.
I would like to see something blue.
Let's see.
It's a little different.
It's a little different.
How do you like this?
It's a pattern.
Here's the same thing.
Oh, it is.
See, now this is the smallest one.
Yeah.
I think we ought to try it.
I mean, I don't want to like what you do.
I don't want to do it on both.
I really think this is a, this is a, we can get to the key structure.
Now, I think you can do that.
And that's a very, uh,
It's really interesting.
It's well done.
It is.
Yeah.
And then what do you expect?
Do you have something different?
Let's say we take one of these two, five.
I mean, that's what I'm telling you.
One, two, three, six.
Six.
Is that equal?
Do you have something now, maybe a...
I didn't have that in the light.
Maybe a very, very...
Yes.
Or maybe something different.
You mean that they have no staples left without a summer weight?
My guess is I probably do need another summer weight.
That we have all the time.
Yeah, we have a couple of summer weights.
They don't hold up very well.
No, the summer weights don't.
So I don't, I have them around just in case that...
Well, I'll head this over by the time we get to the middle.
Uh, and we'll take one.
Yeah, sure.
Oh, sure, sure.
I'll let you know.
We could do it sooner, but there isn't enough.
I think that's about right.
I think that's what I need right now.
And then that leaves us open so that in the fall, I can...
Yes, and we'll have some next position.
Right now, since I'm scraping the bottom... All right.
Fair enough.
And, uh, Rosary said something about a cancer.
I've got some more cancer, but I probably won't have a lot of it.
They're so beautiful.
I'll tell you what.
What I like more are the soft batteries.
I haven't read it.
It's a nice place to live.
I don't know what this is.
This is wonderful, because it feels so good.
That's it, you know, with these wraps, it's great.
I brought these, these are made in my house.
I've got a very long history of those.
I have so many in my mind.
I don't know.
What do you think of this generation?
I don't wear browns.
You wear...
I'm not that lady.
You're not that lady.
You're not that lady.
You're not that lady.
I don't want to discuss it when you want to relax.
I suppose we've got the day.
It's beautiful, but it's...
I know it.
How do you like the print?
It's a pretty good piece.
Yes.
The print is very good.
It's been selling good.
I remember the check-in show we made a long time ago.
You liked to relax.
Yeah, I worked at the same person.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
If I had a two, three pound flyer, which means there's no problem with it, I would just keep my weight right down.
I would make between these two.
I have that picket red that I like so much.
Red should be water, blue, red.
Get red sliders right away.
That's the center.
That's the right amount of light.
Yeah.
This is water.
This is water.
I do show you.
That's the center.
That's the center.
That's the center.
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Well, I think I think I will take them both.
Why?
I wish I could.
I'm going to go with it.
Right.
I know.
I feel that.
You know, the side issue.
I've got a lot of swag.
So I'll sit there.
Let me say one suggestion that Carter made to me, and I don't know whether you all agree with this or not.
He was in here to take some pictures of the wedding and so forth.
He thinks that we might do well, and I must say,
Have the trousers perhaps cut?
This is an older suit, but it's very nice.
They have to be cut so they are not quite as full, quite as wide.
What are you getting at?
Yeah, that it gets sort of sloppy.
He says, but if you're standing up, he also feels that the coat might be just a little trifle
Trap will hold them down.
I don't know.
Well, I think they should do it because they're rich.
This is really important.
This is vital.
This house is vital.
I can see that.
Do you still want to keep some of your houses?
Well, they ought to.
They ought to.
They ought to.
They ought to.
They ought to.
They ought to.
They ought to.
They ought to.
They ought to.
They ought to.
They ought to.
They ought to.
They ought to.
They ought to.
They ought to.
They ought to.
I do want new paper, new pattern.
Yeah.
Yeah, because.
What would you, what would you, you think you would agree with that?
Yes.
I do like the cuffs.
Yeah, yes.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
But his view was to present it differently.
He says they're just two different levels.
And he thought to maybe the coach should be a little bit more in line with him.
And it's probably because I might be just a little lighter.
It's probably five pounds.
But you know, three, four pounds makes quite a difference.
And on T.V.
I caught you, uh, going to the airplane.
I noticed your trousers were black and the wings, you know.
Yeah, well, yeah, let me, I'll tell you what we do.
Uh, shall I bring over one of the newer suits?
Very good.
Let's do that.
Very good.
Take a look at it now.
Very good.
Would you go over to the, uh, to the residence and bring over one of my newer suits, you know, the ones that, uh, that is, became, uh,
Let me see.
You can tell the ones that I've got the last time.
So that they will tell you which one they'll be.
How are you, sir?
I think you'll find a message.
You're going to be very happy with that.
I don't know whether it should be really good.
It should get two sport boots, but I guess... Oh, I think you should.
Maybe it'll make it reliable.
I'll take it in Houston, just like, without any back pockets or anything like that.
I'll look at it like that, with back pockets.
I don't mind having buttons, sir.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They didn't even mention anything about what the hell the photographer did.
Oh, and I didn't get any of that stuff.
No, we didn't.
No, we didn't.
No.
No, we didn't talk about that.
But we did watch a little bit.
It looks good on TV.
Yeah.
I think, actually, it looks very good.
on TV.
He's a very good guy.
But I think him and his whole, he's still a photographer.
He does, he's achieved a large number of looks.
And he just said that he thought that, you know, he gives it pressure.
You look a little taller and a little more pregnant if your suits are not too baggy.
Yeah.
Do you see what he means?
Yes.
I remember what we had on the island.
I remember what we had.
What's that?
The island.
They narrowed everything down.
It was a little hell.
Yeah.
It's not a big deal.
It's just your head.
That's right.
That's right.
That's right.
And then slim down through there.
Everybody looks like a boxer.
Yes.
20 years ago.
You're all good with me?
No, I'll join those two.
You'll relax more.
You'll relax more.
Do you not think you make too much of those?
What?
Too much of those?
Yes, you do.
You make a lot too much.
I prefer the tree.
You do?
I just like the tree feels to me.
I'm so used to it.
Three, I think.
Three.
All right.
That's my answer.
Because I did a couple of ones.
You make too much.
I wear them.
Yes.
I like them.
The tree seemed to be the...
It's a little more comfortable, but when I'm sitting so much and everything, the two sort of lock up.
No, I have, I mean, I have a beautiful dress, and I wear it all the time, and people hate it very much, but I don't get enough use of it.
I'm not just enough.
I'd rather see what I want when I'm speaking or talking in person.
I just, you know, you look better in person, I think.
Although, I must say, I've worked with those restaurants on several occasions.
They're absolutely very well.
And I work with them.
Everybody has a new style.
Sir?
Why do you think the hotel should be here?
I'm getting the problem from Max.
Yeah, this is a small hotel.
We'll be back in a minute.
I wonder, may I take a picture with you?
Sure.
Take a picture.
Four and a half.
Is he lost?
Yes, he is.
Three and a half.
Four and a half.
It's very good.
Yeah, he lost, he lost a little bit.
It's very good.
We're going to talk to the head stage show again.
How are they going to do it?
They don't like it.
Do you want to?
What do you, what do you, what do you see the end of?
We still have problems with the like I remember.
Remember before we had this problem.
Yeah, yeah.
No, we're still on.
No, we're still on.
And then I just don't know.
Let's see what the others are.
Oh, the liberals.
Mr. Green, this is Matthew.
I'm going to ask you a question.
How much time would you want to get through to Alvaro for us?
I'm sorry, what?
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Can you make up a box for these to come and take back?
All of our little gadgets, for instance, a couple of them, just to buy them, part by part.
And then you can pass the couple of them to me that doesn't, so they can take me some of them.
Just give them to me.
Just give me a box that doesn't.
Just give me a few of them here just to take off.
We've got a key chain.
We have a
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'll remember that one.
Yes?
The new ones do not have a name like that.
It's the... Bring me a car.
They have a...
Let me go.
I've got to go check, and I want to be sure that it's not in the back.
I don't know.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
Thank you very much.
No, no, no, no.
The main purpose would be to set you down.
I understand.
I'm setting you all up.
I don't get it.
These are very small.
Okay.
Well, I guess that will leave it to you.
No, I will do it as they are.
I know that you would feel much more comfortable.
Yeah.
The plea is that I have orders.
I'm trying to get out of the place and I don't like it.
Okay, so I'm able to be comfortable, sure.
But it may be that you can't...
It does give you a little bit of...
It does give you a little more of a question.
Ah, yeah, I see what you're saying.
Okay, but he's going to take that.
I'm going to ask him what to do.
I like this question.
The what?
I like this question.
I think it is, yeah.
Do you want to take this?
No, I don't.
What do you do like?
No, no, no.
I don't show you much.
I don't show you much.
I don't show you much.
They're cold.
Now...
It's probably a little loose.
Seriously.
I don't know.
Oh, yes.
Because you lost, right?
Oh, yes.
Yes, it's just a little bit.
It looks good.
Did you mention this before we sent it?
Huh?
Did you mention this before we sent it?
I don't know.
I want to have a make-up day.
No, no, no.
Because I'm interested in this stuff.
That's right.
Good looking.
Looks very good.
Very good.
Good looking.
Okay.
Then you'll know.
Very well.
I understand.
Yeah.
I'll make that decision.
You want to take this in just a little bit?
Just a little bit.
This is exactly what I'm going to do.
I'm going to put it in your dimension.
Well, suppose we take this jacket and take it in.
Can I take a little bit for it?
Can I take a little bit for it?
Can I take a little bit for it?
Can I take a little bit for it?
Can I take a little bit for it?
Can I take a little bit for it?
Can I take a little bit for it?
Can I take a little bit for it?
Can I take a little bit for it?
Can I take a little bit for it?
If you think it should be down a little, you do whatever is right.
Yes, yes.
Fine.
I'll change my suit, it won't matter here.
It's got a wonderful expression.
It's a nice expression.
Yeah.
Against this one.
Yeah, it's an old film now.
That's a great family.
Oh, yes.
I got that years ago.
I suppose this year, you probably can guess.
It's a praying suit, but I don't know.
It goes way down.
It must be at least 10, 15.
when I was vice president here.
I wouldn't be this surprised.
But it was yours when I was vice president.
That's right.
But look at the cloth.
I remember this fabric.
Isn't that a great fabric?
They don't make them like this anymore.
They don't make them that good.
No, no.
That's real quality.
Oh, sure.
That's when they made the fabrics that you were able to buy from them.
All right, so...
Thank you all for coming.
Well, I...
Thank you very much.
And, uh, I think...
I think as we get it up, I would say, for example, next, uh, about January, if you come down, and we'll order some more, we'll resend them, and that's going to be the quarter of May to January.
That's a good sign for the spring start, because I'll have a very disagreeable spring start, and I want to light the way.
Okay.
Yes.
Okay, and how are you doing back there tonight?
Okay.
Yes.
As a matter of fact, we're getting our lights together for a sales meeting August 30th.
Okay.
Well, congrats.
All right.
All right.
Oh, you've got your box.
All right.
Thank you for coming back.
Thank you.
Take care.
This one's for you.
Oh, okay.