Nixon White House TapesTape 517 › Conversation 517-013

Nixon & Bull on Ronald L. Ziegler

Friday, June 11, 1971 · 12:59 PM–1:02 PM ET · Oval Office ·26 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Bull, Stephen B.Conversation517-013 onTape 517 (tape position 03:13:22–03:13:47)StartFriday, June 11, 1971 at 12:59 PMEndFriday, June 11, 1971 at 1:02 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 517-013 ↗

President Nixon met with his aide, Stephen B. Bull, to coordinate his immediate schedule, specifically regarding an appointment with his barber. They also discussed an upcoming briefing with Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler. The conversation concluded with the President deciding to proceed with his grooming appointment despite Ziegler’s wait.

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What do we do with the barber?
Ziegler is still waiting.
The barber is downstairs waiting for you.
Well, I've got to go to the barber.
Is that open?
Yes, sir.
I'm going to interview Ziegler for a year.
Oh, sure.
I'm going to interview Ziegler for a year.
Do you know where they're going to do that over there?

On June 11, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:59 pm and 1:02 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 517-013 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 517-13

Date: June 11, 1971
Time: Unknown between 12:59 pm and 1:02 pm
Location: Oval Office
                                                                 Conv. No. 517-12 (cont.)
The President met with Stephen B. Bull

     President’s schedule
          -Barber appointment
          -Ronald L. Ziegler briefing

Bull left at unknown time before 1:02 pm
  • 517-010 12:23 PM · 16 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Guido Zerilli-Marimo, Alexander P. Butterfield, Oliver F. ("Ollie") Atkins, and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:23 pm to 12:39 pm.
  • 517-011 12:39 PM · 21 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:39 pm to 12:40 pm.
  • 517-012 12:40 PM · 19 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Robert C. Hill, Harry S. Dent, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:40 pm to 12:59 pm.
  • 517-014 12:59 PM · 23 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:59 pm and 1:02 pm.
  • 517-015 12:59 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:59 pm and 1:02 pm.
  • 517-016 1:02 PM · 1 min — unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 1:02 pm and 1:36 pm.
  • 517-017 1:36 PM · 5 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 1:36 pm and 1:43 pm.
  • 517-018 1:36 PM · 40 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 1:36 pm and 1:43 pm.

Conversation 517-013, June 11, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/517-013 (accessed September 18, 2026).