Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 569 › Conversation 569-008

Nixon & Bull on Economic policy and Paul W. McCracken

Friday, September 10, 1971 · 12:36 PM–12:39 PM ET · Oval Office

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation569-008 on Tape 569 (tape position 01:14:39–01:16:18)StartFriday, September 10, 1971 at 12:36 PMEndFriday, September 10, 1971 at 12:39 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 569-008 ↗

President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull briefly coordinate the President's upcoming schedule, specifically finalizing a meeting with Paul W. McCracken to discuss economic policy. The conversation also touches upon administrative matters regarding a new presidential podium for the residence and a gift for First Lady Pat Nixon. The participants conclude by confirming a later meeting to further clarify their agenda.

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1:14:53Mr. President, Dr. McCracken is meeting with me.
1:14:53We're talking about the economic ministry.
1:14:54Yeah, but I'll see you tonight.
1:14:55Yeah, me too.
1:14:55Some place around 4 or 4.30, we can meet and figure out what it was.
1:14:57Yeah, we can do that.
1:15:22This is the peace.
1:15:23This is the very greatest peace in my heart.
1:15:24I see the peace.

On September 10, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:36 pm and 12:39 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 569-008 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 569-8

Date: September 10, 1971
Time: Unknown between 12:36 pm and 12:39 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

     The President's schedule
          -Paul W. McCracken
                -Schedule
          -Meeting with McCracken
                -Time
          -Schedule

     New presidential podium
         -Residence

     Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
          -Book
          -Gift [crystal vase]

Butterfield left at an unknown time before 12:39 pm.
  • 072-002 12:12 PM — unknown person(s) met in the Cabinet Room of the White House at an unknown time between 12:12 pm and 12:39 pm.
  • 569-004 12:14 PM · 5 min — President Richard M. Nixon and John B. Connally met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:14 pm to 12:19 pm.
  • 569-005 12:19 PM · 5 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, James D. ("Don") Hughes, Jo Ann Redman, Bruce Bennett, Mrs. Bruce Bennett, Anthony Radd, Naomi Redman, Lt. Col. Harland E. Pridelle, Lt. Col. James H. Gibbons, Lt. Col. John Finlay, Maj. Maj. Frederick W. Swift, Maj. Charles Freed, SGM Richard J. McCoy, Polly Thompson, Mary Burson, Walter R. Tkach, J. Paul Benson, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:19 pm to 12:25 pm.
  • 569-006 12:25 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:25 pm to 12:26 pm.
  • 569-007 12:26 PM · 11 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Ernst G. Breitholz, George T. Bell, Robert R. Mullen, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:26 pm to 12:36 pm.
  • 569-009 12:36 PM · 22 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:36 pm and 12:39 pm.
  • 569-010 12:39 PM · 52 sec — United States Secret Service agents met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:39 pm and 12:58 pm.
  • 569-011 12:58 PM · 1 hr 4 min — President Richard M. Nixon, unknown person(s), United States Secret Service agents, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:58 pm to 2:05 pm.

Conversation 569-008, September 10, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/569-008 (accessed October 9, 2026).