Conversation 594-007

TapeTape 594StartMonday, October 18, 1971 at 12:37 PMEndMonday, October 18, 1971 at 12:44 PMTape start time02:17:01Tape end time02:25:10ParticipantsBell, George T.;  Walters, Thomas G.;  Walters, Thomas G. (Mrs.);  Tarr, Clarence M.;  Tarr, Clarence M. (Mrs.);  Sparks, Arthur L.;  Sparks, Arthur L. (Mrs.);  Walkendifer, Vincent G.;  Walkendifer, Vincent G. (Mrs.);  Davis, Gertrude G.;  Chace, Carleton J.;  Stone, James W.;  Stone, James W. (Mrs.);  Gardner, Ted R.;  Gardner, Ted R. (Mrs.);  Johnson, Glenn R. (Col.);  O'Connor, F. E.;  Miller, Luther L.;  Attebery, Joe G.;  Attebery, Joe G. (Mrs.);  Meadows, Ed W.;  Meadows, Ed W. (Mrs.);  Hillyard, Ray;  Turrisi, Charles J.;  Turrisi, Charles J. (Mrs.);  Graybill, Ben W.;  Magee, David M.;  O'Neill, Chris J.;  Park, Judith E.;  Slade, Katherine G.;  Bell, George T.;  Walters, Thomas G.;  Walters, Thomas G. (Mrs.);  Tarr, Clarence M.;  Tarr, Clarence M. (Mrs.);  Sparks, Arthur L.;  Sparks, Arthur L. (Mrs.);  Walkendifer, Vincent G.;  Walkendifer, Vincent G. (Mrs.);  Davis, Gertrude G.;  Chace, Carleton J.;  Stone, James W.;  Stone, James W. (Mrs.);  Gardner, Ted R.;  Gardner, Ted R. (Mrs.);  Johnson, Glenn R. (Col.);  O'Connor, F. E.;  Miller, Luther L.;  Attebery, Joe G.;  Attebery, Joe G. (Mrs.);  Meadows, Ed W.;  Meadows, Ed W. (Mrs.);  Hillyard, Ray;  Turrisi, Charles J.;  Turrisi, Charles J. (Mrs.);  Graybill, Ben W.;  Magee, David M.;  O'Neill, Chris J.;  Park, Judith E.;  Slade, Katherine G.Recording deviceOval Office

On October 18, 1971, George T. Bell, Thomas G. Walters, Mrs. Thomas G. Walters, Clarence M. Tarr, Mrs. Clarence M. Tarr, Arthur L. Sparks, Mrs. Arthur L. Sparks, Vincent G. Walkendifer, Mrs. Vincent G. Walkendifer, Gertrude G. Davis, Carleton J. Chace, James W. Stone, Mrs. James W. Stone, Ted R. Gardner, Mrs. Ted R. Gardner, Col. Glenn R. Johnson, F. E. O'Connor, Luther L. Miller, Joe G. Attebery, Mrs. Joe G. Attebery, Ed W. Meadows, Mrs. Ed W. Meadows, Ray Hillyard, Charles J. Turrisi, Mrs. Charles J. Turrisi, Ben W. Graybill, David M. Magee, Chris J. O'Neill, Judith E. Park, and Katherine G. Slade met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:37 pm to 12:44 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 594-007 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 594-7

Date: October 18, 1971
Time: 12:37 pm - 12:44 pm
Location: Oval Office

George T. Bell met with Mr. and Mrs. Thomas G. Walters, Mr. and Mrs. Clarence M. Tarr, Mr.
and Mrs. Arthur L. Sparks, Mr. and Mrs. Vincent G. Walkendifer, Gertrude G. Davis, Mr.
Carleton J. Chace, Mr. and Mrs. James W. Stone, Mr. and Mrs. Ted R. Gardner, Col. Glen R.
Johnson, F. E. O'Connor, Luther L. Miller, Mr. and Mrs. Joe G. Attebery, Mr. and Mrs. Ed W.

Meadows, Ray Hillyard, Charles J. Turrisi, Ben W. Graybill, David M. Magee, Chris J. O'Neill,
Katherine G. Slade and Judith E. Park
[The White House photographer was present for part of this meeting]

      [General conversation]

      Introductions
            -Mrs. Walters
            -George T. Bell

The President entered at an unknown time after 12:37 pm.

      Salutations

      Photograph

Photographer left at an unknown time before 12:44 pm.

      Introduction

      National Association of Retired Federal Employees [NARFE]
           -Support for the President's policies

      Economy
          -Income
               -Savings

      Gift presentations
            -Oval Office seal

      White House tour

Bell, et al. left at 12:44 pm.

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So I think I'm generally, you know, one of the guys that there is things that I think we can accomplish there, and things that I'm particularly interested in the countries in the future, about force reduction in the Middle East.
salt docks, and I think that if we come out with something substantive so it doesn't appear that this is all half-dispirited.
Oh, absolutely.
And what I'm supposed to do would be to do exactly what Henry's doing.
Play the role, keep the same reason, not have threats, and just sort of go with your people and make arrangements now.
Henry's going to be tied up with the Chinese part of it, and I think that to some extent we're going to have to make our plans coincidentally, because...
because there's going to be probably too much space in between for you to go and march.
Yeah, marching is very good.
Marching will make you lunch, doesn't it?
And, you know, it's an enormous amount of preparation.
We think these other trips are hard to seize.
Well, all right, that's it.
I think I'll get it figured out.
I'll make a statement.
The fact of the matter is he thinks it's better tomorrow morning than the first.
Tell me what you think about it tomorrow and ask George Maynard's speech today.
Either one is all right, though.
Yeah, well, you may get the question.
Anyway, so I, he may get it off the cuff, but if he does, I'll have it planted.
Right.
And have him make a statement.
Good, good.
If you like, I'll just say, well, what are these stories?
And then he just... No, I'm just saying, don't do this with him.
The president fully supports the Secretary of State's boundary lines and the American bushes, and that's our position.
Fully supports it.
That's the American position.
The president fully supports it.
Fair enough.
Right.
Thank you.
I'll load them in here.
The boat is in contact with the White House.
Here we go.
Here we go.
I don't know if they're going to be able to access that.
This is a group.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
Come right in here, please.
Right over on this side of the road.
Okay, that's it.
You're ready.
You take the time.
Mr. Walker.
Mr. Walker.
Mr. Walker.
Come along this walk here, please.
Come on.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Well, I don't think I'm going to do that.
Well, I don't think I'm going to do that.
I don't think I'm going to do that.
I don't think I'm going to do that.
Okay, the secret is, if you can see this, those are the equations.
I don't see why they'd take me.
You gonna receive it?
Mr. President, I would like to tell you good morning for your last call to the whole group.
These are the Uber's chairs.
Well, perhaps we might get a group photograph.
Well, let me see.
We'll get blocked here.
I'm afraid some of us are going to be in trouble.
Thank you.
Yes, yes, yes.
Very nice.
I'm very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very,
Mr. President, I'm Captain Sway from the Long Beach, California.
Are you, Reverend Sway?
Yes, sir.
You've got the whole country.
You've got to comply.
I'm very glad to be here.
Let's have a shake of hands.
Yeah, it was down in the other sea of the Philippines.
Oh, you were there.
I didn't think of that.
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President of the City of Ohio.
President of the City of Ohio.
Straight part of the country.
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Well, I want to welcome you all.
Thank you for your
I mean, coming here, I'm sure, in support of our efforts, trying to see that your income at the present time doesn't mean that the price increases.
You guys are here all the time.
If I were to speak to them, they're not here at those meetings, don't you think?
We believe in this program, sir.
That's right, and it's going to help.
We're going to try to see if the results will last over a period of time.
It's really a really great job.
It's a great tragedy to have people, you know, who, you know, you mean they work hard, they save their money, but they put in life and transportation, you know, things like that.