Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 596 › Conversation 596-011

Nixon, Tomkins & Reynders on Oval Office and To Tell the Truth

Tuesday, October 19, 1971 · 12:31 PM–12:33 PM ET · Oval Office

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.; Tomkins, Ross; Reynders, Charlton ("Rink"); White House photographerConversation596-011 on Tape 596 (tape position 02:18:37–02:22:22)StartTuesday, October 19, 1971 at 12:31 PMEndTuesday, October 19, 1971 at 12:33 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 596-011 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon met with Stephen B. Bull, Ross Tomkins, and Charlton Reynders in the Oval Office to discuss personal matters and engage in lighthearted conversation. The participants exchanged pleasantries, discussed their New York residences, and posed for a White House photograph. They also spoke briefly about the television show "To Tell the Truth" and exchanged gifts before the brief meeting concluded.

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2:18:37Where do you live?
2:18:37You're a... You're a...
2:18:39Yes.
2:18:40I'm... Oh, yes.
2:18:42Oh, yes.
2:18:43I'm involved in that, too.
2:18:46That's fine.
2:18:48It's a great work.
2:18:52Do you live right in Manhattan?
2:18:54Yeah, you live right in Manhattan.
2:18:57He's a research director.
2:18:59He's a research director.
2:19:01He's a research director.
2:19:01He's a research director.
2:19:02He's a research director.
2:19:04He's a research director.
2:19:06He's a research director.
2:19:13He's a research director.
2:19:16He's a research director.
2:19:21So that's the first thing that we can add.
2:19:25All right.
2:19:27Is there?
2:19:28They really think so?
2:19:29I was just going to say, over talking to over in the cancer activity, and apparently there's a lot going on there, too, on the provider side and on both the drug side and the infection side.
2:19:44So we'll go on.
2:19:46First, we can't cure everything.
2:19:47We're all going to break.
2:19:48But that's not the one that's going to be reported.
2:19:49Yes, I think that's the one.
2:19:50Thank you a lot.
2:19:51Thanks for your help in New York.
2:19:52We appreciate it.
2:19:52Thank you.
2:20:04President, I almost hesitated to ask you this.
2:20:06There are some TV's in the room to tell you I'm going on a next week meeting.
2:20:11Throwing out two imposters who are coming here in the field for the White House.
2:20:14See you at the talk show.
2:20:15Oh, yes.
2:20:16I was worried about the reunion.
2:20:18They said that they met you at the talk show.
2:20:24Oh, sure.
2:20:25This is funny.
2:20:27I thought you might put her over there for a while.
2:20:28Yeah, of course.
2:20:29I thought I'd get that in.
2:20:30Yeah, I'll bring it in right now, I think.
2:21:00How are you?
2:21:00Glad to see you.
2:21:00How are you?
2:21:00Glad to see you.
2:21:01How are you?
2:21:01Glad to see you.
2:21:22Okay, here's my pocket.
2:21:22Oh, you're on to the program.
2:21:23You're on to the program.
2:21:24I love the program.
2:21:24That's right.
2:21:24When does it come on?
2:21:25It's going to be today.
2:21:25It's going to be today.
2:21:26Here, here.
2:21:26I'll give you a little long plug for tonight.
2:21:42Well, I've actually had my children watch the program, watch some of it, very small bit.
2:21:47They hardly thought it was worth it.
2:21:48You know, you're not the one on the regular program.
2:21:51Yeah, yeah.
2:21:52Where do you both live, Peter?
2:21:53I'm a near neighbor of yours when you live in New York.
2:21:56It's 62nd Street.
2:21:57Really?
2:21:57Yeah.
2:21:5962nd?
2:21:59Forty-one, basically.
2:22:00Sure.
2:22:00Oh, yes, I know.
2:22:01I'm Connecticut.
2:22:02You're Connecticut, but you both work in New York.
2:22:05Yes, yes.
2:22:05And you write at the time of the program.
2:22:12It's bad.
2:22:12Everything is bad.
2:22:13Thank you very much.
2:22:16You can tell her I said it.
2:22:18To your girlfriend.

NARA Description

On October 19, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, Ross Tomkins, Charlton (Rink) ("Rink") Reynders, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:31 pm to 12:33 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 596-011 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 596-11

Date: October 19, 1971
Time: 12:31 pm - 12:33 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull, Ross Tomkins, and Charlton (“Rink”) Reynders.
[The White House photographer was present at the beginning of the meeting]

     Introductions

     “To Tell the Truth”

     Photograph

     New York residence

     Presentation of gifts

Bull, et al. left at 12:33 pm.

Also recorded on October 19, 1971

  • 596-008 12:23 PM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at 12:23 pm.
  • 596-009 12:23 PM · 5 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at 12:23 pm.
  • 596-023 12:23 PM · 8 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Charles W. V. Meares, Sylvia Lawry, Kenneth R. Cole, Jr., White House photographer, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:23 pm and 12:30 pm.
  • 596-010 12:30 PM · 24 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:30 pm and 12:31 pm.
  • 080-003 12:33 PM · 11 min — Stephen B. Bull and unknown person(s) met in the Cabinet Room of the White House at an unknown time between 12:33 pm and 11:59 pm.
  • 596-012 12:33 PM · 22 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:33 pm and 12:36 pm.
  • 596-013 12:36 PM · 15 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Rose Mary Woods, White House operator, Richard H. Poff, and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:36 pm to 12:53 pm.
  • 011-128 12:42 PM · 41 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Richard H. Poff talked on the telephone from 12:42 pm to 12:43 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 596-011, October 19, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/596-011 (accessed September 28, 2026).