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Conversation 609-005

TapeTape 609StartSaturday, October 30, 1971 at 9:58 AMEndSaturday, October 30, 1971 at 10:05 AMTape start time01:10:09Tape end time01:12:58ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Bull, Stephen B.Recording deviceOval Office
AI Summary

President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull coordinated the logistical details for the upcoming visit of Yugoslavian President Josip Broz Tito. They reviewed scheduling conflicts regarding the arrival of First Lady Pat Nixon and Mrs. Tito, as well as the timing of helicopter transport and press photo opportunities. Nixon ultimately decided to set the departure time for 11:00 a.m. to streamline the transition and facilitate a controlled photo event on the White House lawn.

Josip Broz TitoPresidential SchedulingLogisticsWhite House ProtocolPat Nixon
AudioNARA Description

On October 30, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 9:58 am and 10:05 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 609-005 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 609-5

Date: October 30, 1971
Time: Unknown between 9:58 am and 10:05 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

     The President's schedule
          -Josip Broz Tito
                -Emil (“Bus”) Mosbacher, Jr.
                      -Helicopter
                -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon, Mrs. Broz
                -Henry A. Kissinger
                -Helicopter
                -Press photo opportunities

Bull left at an unknown time before 10:05 am.
Transcript (AI-Generated)

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Mr. President, Mr. President, I have a big question that's been urgent in the years since you, the attacking partners, have been taken down in these anti-corruption sessions.
All right.
At the conclusion of the meeting, the ambassador wants me to recommend the Senate to be appropriate to helicopter the President, you know, in the morning of his entry to the Air Force Base, which he worked out very well.
So at about 10.30, Mrs. Nixon and Mrs. Bronson come over from the yellow hall room.
So Mrs. Bronson said... Well, it'll take more time than that.
He expects a little more time than that.
I think you better hold them over there.
I think we've got to figure this one out.
Who told you it'd be 10.30?
Well, originally... Well, I mean, that's what we said.
They don't know it.
I know.
Yeah, they said they expected an hour and a half.
And you said this?
Yeah.
Well, anyway.
Well, this is the first thing that Mr. Brodsky...
We may have that.
I think they should remain there.
Yes, sir.
We have that.
And then the two first ladies would come over.
No, we don't.
Is he going by helicopter?
How is this starting off in a helicopter?
You mean?
All right.
Is it going to be here?
Yes, sir.
On the lawn.
At 11 o'clock?
Or at the conclusion of your meeting?
Yeah.
There's one advantage.
The two first ladies over here would give Mr. Franz the opportunity to see your office.
And then the press photograph, they would be taken to interview the four of you.
Coming down between the corridor, between the walkway, up towards the south portico.
There'll be a colorful picture on the floor upon departure.
Well, let's have the helicopter come in this time and make it 11 o'clock.
It's going to be shut, that's sure.
We'll just cut off at 11.
All right, sir, fine.
And then we'll bring the two first ladies over at that time, and the four of you can walk down to get in.
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