Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 638 › Conversation 638-009

Nixon & Bull on Presidential travel and Guam

Wednesday, December 15, 1971 · 12:02 PM–12:06 PM ET · Oval Office

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation638-009 on Tape 638 (tape position 03:14:34–03:15:59)StartWednesday, December 15, 1971 at 12:02 PMEndWednesday, December 15, 1971 at 12:06 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 638-009 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull discussed logistics regarding an upcoming trip, focusing on travel schedules and transit times to Hawaii and Guam. The brief exchange centered on managing the timing of departures and arrivals to ensure the President's itinerary was efficient. No major policy decisions were reached during this administrative review of travel arrangements.

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3:15:02Mm-hmm.
3:15:02Not, not two days, but a day and a half.
3:15:05Oh, you see, in the morning from here, that'll get you to Hawaii.
3:15:09Uh...
3:15:11by midday.
3:15:13Spend that night, the next day, and that night, and then leave the following day for Guam.
3:15:17Get to Guam just in time to go to the evening.
3:15:25Not on a walk would you avoid sitting back and all that kind of stuff, too, which is also good.
3:15:31Same.

NARA Description

On December 15, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:02 pm and 12:06 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 638-009 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 638-009

       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542

Date: December 15, 1971
Time: Unknown between 12:02 pm and 12:06 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

     Congressional briefing
          -Wilbur D. Mills
          -John W. Byrnes
          -Russell B. Long
               -Long

Bull left at an unknown time before 12:06 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 638-009, December 15, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/638-009 (accessed October 11, 2026).