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No, I'll have to do them at the end.

Sure, I'll take time before I have to prepare for this meeting.

There's the sports on it.

The color started to be.

If you were on, you could understand this.

You know, he's a sports fan.

Sure.

What I meant is he could talk to somebody about the turning point of the Redskins season.

They all say that privately, you know what I mean?

But you think it's a nice story?

Yeah.

After this thing, the turning point of the Redskins season.

And the idea that maybe that one of the guys should have that game ball or something like that.

I said, I don't want it.

I just think it's not good.

Who could you give that to, Bob?

Or maybe he's the best one to do it.

Ron is going to put this together.

He can do it, but he's not going to put the time.

Let me play a little bit.

I'm happy to talk to him.

Yeah, I'm too sorry.

I think it's better he probably get more on it, because Scali and Runner are working awful hard on this other story.

Marge, at a turning point in the season, Marge talked to Nick, to Alan.

Nick is an ideal man to write.

It is really a dramatic story, what that team has done.

They're split out.

It's the greatest excuse to coach a team without questions.

It really is.

To beat the ranch, they're a good team.

They've got more, frankly, they've got more horsepower than the Redskins.

They've got more shot.

It's your story and you're fired up.

What you can do is get done.

I talked to Rogers about this meeting.

He said, fine, you should do it.

He completely agreed you shouldn't have foreign affairs and keep it separate.

He did say, if you had the chance, that it would be good for you to make the point, even to this group, Congressman,

economic wasn't the only thing that was covered.

We had already a successful meeting with Pompidou and the other advisors on the whole range of those relationships back and forth and all.

I said you had been pushing the guys this morning on exactly that point.

I didn't say Henry had, but Henry did make that point on the plane yesterday.

And they are working.

It's inevitable.

The hard story out of it is the money.

So that's what's going to override it.

But he's got that.

And he's a leader.

And Sam will come.

It's a good thought, if I hadn't been there to tell them about the mission.

I'm sure you wouldn't have been.

People could have realized, look, that kind of meeting was a very, a very tiring meeting, and it's no true in the heart of the city.

But I reason to get prepared for the Chinese side, and there's some way we could...

maybe take a little more time, progressively getting out to the damn place.

I'm sure we need a day in California, that's for one thing, even though it'll pop down.

The goddamn Crest could go another way anyway.

They don't have to fly tandem with us.

Where else would we stay other than Hawaii?

Hawaii, you see, isn't much of a break either.

But what looks like the best time, what we're going to recommend,

is to go on Wednesday to California.

Spend Wednesday night there, and all day Thursday and Thursday night.

So you get two nights in California.

That's only three hours, otherwise.

Well, if you keep that three hours, then you go on Wednesday.

Could I suggest that maybe the better thing is to fly to Hawaii and do it there for two days?

All right.

I'll tell you why.

Then you've got six hours.

That's right.

On the way.

The only reason for California is it's an easier place for you to relax.

But if we could get, I won't relax a whole lot.

I mean, being left alone really is the point.

No, but if we got to Hawaii and used the rock-collar house, you know, that I, and I won't do any swimming or anything.

I can drive to the beach if I want to take a swim.

The other thing that was sort of a factor, I don't think it's terribly important, is we could have a bigger send-out kind of a thing from California.

Which had some sort of appeal.

Hawaii you won't get, you just don't get much of a crowd thing.

I got moved twice then.

I got spent a night in California.

Then a night in Hawaii.

And then what we had was two nights in Guam.

Because that's your...

And you have that nice, that's a good house there.

If I stayed there?

Yeah, the Nimitz house.

That's where I stayed before.

It's not a bad place, not a bad place.

It's also not bad symbolism.

That's right.

The wild doctor came from there.

That's right.

Okay.

I wonder, you know, if...

I don't know, California then maybe is a better partner.

Still the Hawaii partners.

Spend the night in California.

Then fly to Guam.

Then fly to Guam on how long the flight will take.

Longer.

It's a long flight.

And then sparkies for Hawaii may be being better.

As a matter of fact, we, I think, have to re-deal with weight.

That, in a certain sense, is late.

If we could do Hawaii, I don't think we'd worry about the scent of Hawaii.

It's going to be all that difference.

We'll have it here.

We can have a scent out here.

We can do a formal departure from here.

That'll run, you know, we always think that doing it in California helps in California.

And yes, we find everything we do in California gets a bigger ride.

No, we get a bigger ride from here to here than in California.

That's right.

You just don't do it.

That's right.

How many times they're perverse on that.

I think Hawaii is better, all right?

I think we ought to do it.

And that breaks the thing.

Six hours.

Spend two days in Hawaii.

And then you also have the advantage of better weather there.

You can get outside, get some sun.

That's right.

I hadn't thought of that.

I'm trying Hawaii.

And incidentally, you don't have to just think of the Hawaii color place on Hawaii.

Maybe there's a better place.

Maybe to go to the, you know, Maui is a place.

Take the hotel, not take Mauna Mauna in.

and take one of the private houses, if there's some private houses.

I'll tell you at the end that you could, with a beach.

Yeah, there's one private house with a beach.

I think Maui has a greater deal to me rather than being in a rockfall place.

You know, a rockfall place is off.

It's not on the beach.

That's right.

If we could land in Maui, I don't want to be, I don't want to be in that goddamn hotel on a walk.

Yeah, that's just, you just, you have a huge group of people there.

Everybody's outside waiting to take your picture.

Yeah, that's, that's a bad, it's no way to walk.

It must be a private house.

Okay, let's do it that way.

Fly to, fly to, uh, fly directly from Washington to Hawaii.

Spend a couple of days.

Then fly along, right?